civileme wrote:
Man! I wanna be like you when I grow up!! exactly how long has it taken you to learn all those languages? I'm seriously awed by that list.On Thursday 06 February 2003 06:46 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:hmmmAnders Lind wrote:OK I just read some stuff about VI & Emacs. Now I'm not one for super complex editors of text. Having said that I realize it behooves me (Correct context for "behooves?" & sp!?) to learn one or the other so Icanedit files on any system. I realized a while back those 2 editors are standard to Any *nix environment. OK... so whats the real diff between those 2 editors & which one is more newb friendly? If neither is newbie friendly, well name something that is and is more or less standard on most *nix's. For the moment I'm leaningFemme, Whether you're hackin code or just editing a file somewhere on the file system VI is the cat's meow. no question, and anyone how says different is just outa his/her tree. :)
Well everyone has to test his wings eventually :-)
I can hack code with either, but stub functions and compilation/debugging has to be easier to do from emacs... Of course some IDEs offer as much but usually for one language. I never know whether I will be using Python, C++, ada, pike, expect, tcl/tk, shell, lisp, or xbasic til I get into the problem, though these days Python is awfully attractive for anything but something requiring speed or scripts for eggdrop bots. With xbasic, I will use their IDE, cause it is like glade, coding functions to handle their widgets (which they call grids).
And by now I am more comfortable with the arcane series of keystrokes for emacs, so that is what I use. When I go into unknown environments, I take an editor with me that will compile on almost anythinjg I don't already have a binary for and which offers multiple keybindings but a whole lot less p[ower than either emacs or vi.
But really I have always felt trapped in these discussions. I don't believe there is really enough common ground to compare them. emacs is easier to get started with thanks to the tutorial built in, and vi is easier to master. emacs is at the same time a desktop, a shell, a scripting host, and a basically crash-proof word processor (Yep I was around when computers worked with 64K memory and MINCE+SCRIBBLE / Final Word II/Borland's SPRINT was a going enterprise and crashes were frequent, and that bound me closer to emacs, cause I always forgot to save on WordStar).
Besides, I have an affection for wheat on dark slate gray that always looks green to me... :-)
Civileme
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