On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 11:48, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Thursday February 13 2003 12:09 am, Ryan Moe wrote: > > I have an Asus A7V133c m/b w/ an Athlon T-bird 1.3. It's not an > > OEM board. The other drives I have are /dev/hda some old shitty > > cd-rom, /dev/hdg a maxtor 30 gig running at ATA-100, /dev/hde a > > quantam 30 gig ATA-100. You think being less than 2 years old > > kernel support would have gone beyond my 12X drive? > > Depends on the firmware. Have you flashed to the latest? Check the > upgrade first to see what bugfixes or improvements it provides. > There's no sense in flashing a to newer bios if all it provides is a > fix for PPC (Macintosh). MOF, in a case like that you could be worse > off. > > I've gotten > > some pretty old, crappy hardware working w/ new kernels (IDE > > controller cards and whatnot). I wasn't using windows as a "hey it > > works in here why not linux", just that if it was something > > physically wrong (i.e. not a driver/config problem) it should show > > up every time I use the drive regardless of OS. > > Windoze is fairly tolerant of marginal or problem hardware. Partly > cause it's just a sloppy OS, partly because fixes and work-arounds > are incorporated into drivers and dll's, vxd's, etc. M$ enjoys and > demands close support from hardware vendors. They do get the source > and specs, and often make changes in the hardware to suit their needs > (deficiencies). > > here is the output > > of the hdparm command. > > Hdparm results looked OK. The A7V133c should be a _good_ board for > Linux, specially with the kt133a VIA chipset. Particularly if it's a > revision 03. The fourth revision (0,1,2,3), which has the rumored ide > bug fixed (see the output from 'lspci' to get your revision number). > > BUT with the exception of the faulty capacitors issue, and Asus > has been unfortunately involved in that for quite a while. Inspect > the caps carefully to see any evidence of burn (brown, yellowish) > markings, leaks (specially from the top, usually yellowish-orange > cream), or any swelling, bulging of the cylinder, or the disc on top. > Are they standin straight up (90� to the mobo), or do they appear to > have been bent over at some point in time (ie, damaged)? > > I suspect tho the IDE controller, or the arrangement, order of > your drives may be the problem. What controller? If you've got two > CD drives, they should be on the same channel. Obviously you've got > more than two channels, ide0, ide1, ide2 .... Frankly IMO that > should be avoided. The old 33 mhz PCI bus can hardly handle two as it > is, specially with drives rated ata/66 or higher. But I think you > need to clarify where you've got each drive you have. > > hda= > ide0 -- | > hdb= > > hdc= Creative Burner > ide1 -- | > hdd= > > .... and so on. IMO, your busy HDD's should be on ide0. I've had best > results with the cdrom as master, the burner as slave (on ide1, with > no more ide channels than those two). YMMV. > > There's one other possible problem, tho I believe your ide > arrangement is much more likely. What PSU? brand, model#, and watts. > If you have lm_sensors installed, are your voltages on spec or > slightly over? are they rock steady? If they are your caps are most > likely OK. > > So if your caps look OK, and your voltages are correct and steady > from a good PSU, then I believe civileme could probly offer more help > than me with you ide arrangement. As you can probly tell, I'm sort'a > biased against integrated or addon controller cards to overload the > PCI bus. What other PCI (including AGP) peripheals do you have on > the PCI bus? There's a tax to be paid with high bandwidth video and > sound cards, and it's paid by overall degradation of the PCI/IDE bus. > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > ---- >
IDE0 and IDE1 are just standard ATA-66 channels. My IDE2 and IDE3 are my ATA-100 channels thats why I have my HDs on those. I don't really have any use for my old CD-ROM so I might just remove that. My board is in good shape, in fact MWAVE replaced it 8 months ago so it's fairly new. I've tried getting firmware updates for my drive before and Creative labs never had an update for my model. Which leads me to believe it might be some rebranded drive like you mentioned. My VIA chipset is revision 3. I have a Radeon 7200 in the AGP slot and a SB Live! card in PCI2 and a linksys ethernet card in PCI3. I thought it might be an issue with my Promise ATA controller but that only controls my 2 ATA-100 channels right? My burner is on a regular IDE channel. Thanks, Ryan
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