On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 00:28, Merlin Zener wrote:
> G'day,
> 
> I've just begun reading man:wine <insert glazed-eyes smiley>
> and as far as I can see the idea is to run windoze programs
> within Mandrake. Never mind the fact that I can't make it
> start Excel yet [I'll continue looking for a while yet before
> asking here], I thought I'd ask for the overview that perhaps
> I'm missing...

In order to fully run MS Office applications, you're going to want to
check into a product called "Crossover Office" which is an
implementation of WINE that has been specially modified to "fake out" MS
Office applications hence having them run under linux.

> I apologise if this is a really stupid question, but like several
> things when confronted with a totally new OS, if you're starting
> off with the wrong assumptions you'll just waste a lot of time.
> 
> Can you run a windoze session *in* Linux?

You run "Windows programs" through WINE - not necessarily a Windows VM.

> Like: you can run a DOS session in a window in windoze, and I've
> heard you can emulate a PC on a Mac.

VirtualPC - used it many of times.

> If so, can you make the two "virtual machines" talk to each other?
> For example, Mandrake can't see files on the NTFS partition
> which Win2K is on, but if I had Windows running I could network
> across to it from Mandrake, just like it was on my laptop?
> 

Firstly, you can access NTFS partitions with the addition of "modules" -
they're loaded into the kernel and allow you to access the file system -
which, being proprietary, is dangerous to WRITE to - but reading is
another issue. You CAN, however, convert NTFS back to FAT - but that
again is rather dangerous.

Now, for instance, if you're running something like VMWare, you can
create a virtual machine of Win2k or WinXP - and can access the
partition through the virtual networking, or by physically mounting the
partition whilst under the VM. That in itself can be quite tricky and I
have seen data corrupted and lost in that situation.

> Come to think of it, that's the next thing I'll try - to get
> Mandrake and the laptop [Win2K, again] talking to each other...
> 

Using SAMBA - which is already installed by default with MDK, you
shouldn't have any problems in sharing folders between the two. It's
relatively simple, but do read up on it. For all it's simplicity, if you
don't know how to do it the first few times, it can be more complex than
Einstein's theories.

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