On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:46 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > Google: "Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring". There's > better ways to tryin shutdown before usin the panic button ;)
Well, I tried to kill out of my Xserver using <control> <alt> <backspace> but that didn't work so I tried <control> <alt> <Fx> (fill in numbers 1 thru 10 for "x") but it wouldn't let me leave. I also tried the venerable <control> <alt> <delete> but no go there either. Locked up tighter than a tap washer. <grin> So...was there something else I could have done before hitting the hardware switches? Thanks! > Weak motherboard, power supply, ram, among other things including > bios (mis)configuration could be involved. Your mobo looks good but > that's a very poor memory vendor. Try setting the ram to cas3 with > bank interleaving disabled. Use lm_sensors and check frequently when > the system is under varying to heavy load to see if the voltages are > at or above spec and _stay steady_. See who made the PSU and check > to see if it, and the cpu heatsink (your mobo is) are AMD appr'vd > http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,0 >0.html I'll go there and check that. > If you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, you should add > 'mem=nopentium' to lilo.conf's append= line. Run 'lilo' and reboot. I'll try that as well... > Another very good system test is prime95. > ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz > D/l and extract that file to a dir by itself. Then in that dir > run ./mprime -m and from the menu choose 17), the torture test. > You should be able to complete that without stopping on hardware > errors. Make sure you can before tryin cpuburn again. This mprime > test takes many hours, so plan on overnite. Ditto > Heatsink should have a 5000 rpm fan on it. The heatsink should > be sitting on the cpu die with a thin layer of thermal grease. A > thermal pad won't do, specially for Athlons. Looks like I'll need to upgrade that then. I did use thermal grease, and not a pad. I hear they deterioate after awhile (one of your messages! <smile>). > Heat could well be causing your problems. The cpu temp you see in > bios is almost useless. Your system isn't fully booted into an OS > yet, and is under low load. To see if better heatsink or case > cooling is needed, take the case cover off and point a table fan into > the case. If your system then runs without, or with little problem, > you need a better hs-fan and/or case cooling. Do so soon, 'cause > letting the system overheat (too many times) will make the system > weaker from then on. Could even be permanently damaged (fubar'd). Gonna try that as well. > Games don't make good system tests or benchmarks, despite many > people thinking they do. 'Sides, many crash all by themselves. I know, just trying to give some examples of whats going on. > Yes, if it's monitored when the system is fully booted up and > working under load. No, when it's from bios. Keep in mind that the > temps you're seeing are from an external probe, and are only > indicative of approximate cpu temp. The cpu internal core temp is at > least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher. XP's made since last July > do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's > no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do, > at least not properly. Okay, I got it. > Still, check for dust bunnies ... and make sure that cpu heatsink > isn't on a pad, and is on some grease. When you get cooling right, > you should be able to run cpuburn's burnK7 (or burnK6 will do) for at > least 15 to 20 minutes. Run for an hour, it means your system is > bulletproof. You might need to give that PNY ram to somebody you > don't like, and get some Crucial, Corsair, or Samsung cas2 ram ;> I hear ya.... <grin> Thanks for the reply Tom! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/
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