On Tuesday 27 May 2003 11:01 pm, Frank Bax wrote: > At 04:51 PM 5/27/03, Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Tuesday 27 May 2003 8:17 pm, Frank Bax wrote: > > > At 03:13 PM 5/27/03, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > >On Tuesday 27 May 2003 7:38 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > >On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:25:51AM +0100, John Richard > > > > > > Smith > > > >wrote: > > > > > >>ajx wrote: > > > > > >>>Graham Banks wrote: > > > > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >>>><snip> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>Anybody got a boot setup allowing different > > > > > >>>>> combinations of disks/partitions to be accessible in > > > > > >>>>> windows & linux? I've got two hard disks, the second > > > > > >>>>> of which is online only for occasional backups. The > > > > > >>>>> first has 5 partitions: a windows one, a dos one and > > > > > >>>>> 3 linux ones (in that order). > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>At present I use a boot manager for Windows, called > > > > > >>>>> xosl, which manages the dos/windows side of this > > > > > >>>>> perfectly. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>><snip> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>I currently have 1 of my computers running win98SE, > > > > > >>>>win2000 (for program compatibility) and MDK9.1 > > > > > >>>>I use XOSL as a boot manager on this machine as I can > > > > > >>>>setup passwords for the different oses and make booting > > > > > >>>>the winblows partitions a little more secure. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>All I did was to install lilo on the MDK partition that > > > > > >>>>contains the /boot. I then pointed XOSL to this > > > > > >>>> partition, labelled it Mandrake (as the default os of > > > > > >>>> course). I set the bios to boot only fron hard drive > > > > > >>>> and viola! - works flawlessly (did so with MDK8.2 and > > > > > >>>> MDK9.0 as well) I set lilo to boot after 2 seconds and > > > > > >>>> removed the options for the windows boot options. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>But all you have done really is replace the windblows > > > > > >> bootloader with this XOSL loader,and I'm guessing, in > > > > > >> the MBR of whichever first partition is Windblows , and > > > > > >> then installed lilo as a linux loader in chain loader > > > > > >> fashion. Now, perhaps this XOSL loader is more secure > > > > > >> than windblows own, but if so I doubt by much, since > > > > > >> password configuration to both windblows has been a > > > > > >> feature of W98 and W2K from the start.You only have to > > > > > >> choose to set it. So why bother with all this XOSL > > > > > >> stuff, just let lilo be installed in the MBR of which > > > > > >> ever windblows OS is first and chain load as before. > > > > > > > > > > > >I think he wants different combinations of FAT partitions > > > > > > to be visible in DOS and Windows. lilo will let the > > > > > > Microsoft systems, when booting, make their own decisions > > > > > > as to what is visible, which is precisely what he does > > > > > > not want. Now there is a utility called letterassign > > > > > > that runs in Windows, (and probably in Dos too, but I'm > > > > > > not sure) that allows you to tell a Windows system what > > > > > > partitions it is to see, and which partitions are to > > > > > > correspond to which so-called "drive" letters. I've used > > > > > > it with Windows 98SE, and it seems to work. > > > > > > > > > > > >-- hendrik > > > > > > > > > > OK, but I have never had any problem with getting any > > > > > windblows OS to recognise any number of FAT 32 partition, > > > > > whether before or after linux partitions. So it must be in > > > > > DOS itself, but does anyone actually use DOS anymore ?, and > > > > > in anycase your sayng DOS cannot recognise FAT32 partitions > > > > > ?, really ? > > > > > > > >Really. In fact, I don't think win95 can, either. Fat32 > > > > wasn't 'invented' then. > > > > > > FAT32 Introduced in Win95 OSR actually. > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.m > > >icro > > > soft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q154/9/97.asp&NoWebContent=1 > > > > > > And yes people still use DOS. I have a couple of DOS systems > > > being used as dialup routers - more secure for this purpose > > > than any of the network enabled OS's. > > > > > > Frank > > > >My mistake, then. I thought win95 was fat16. > > > >Anne > > The original Win95 was indeed fat16 only - and therefore 2G limit. > I made a typo - Win95 OSR2 introduced fat32. There were four > versions of Win95, three of which support fat32.
That fits my memory of it - except that I didn't know there were 4. I only remembered 2. Thanks for clearing it up. Anne
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