On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 01:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:56, Cody Harris wrote:
>
> > I think that's where someone should step in and make it usable to the
> > average non-computer literate person. It took my awhile to learn how
> > to do things. I think that could be solved with a little more
> > automation and not painstakingly doing everything. urpmi(sp?) is
> > great, but what about someone that doesn't know about it? Windows
> > update if good because it says: "Here's a list of crap that we think
> > will make your computer better". Even if it doesn't help. Of course,
> > i'm saying this from experiance, so i'm most likly wrong. How many of
> > you that have had wives that didn't know how to use the thing?
>
> Look, 90% of the world DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WINDOWS - they buy a
> computer with Windows already installed. IF they had to install it
> themselves, it's a tough go - especially on a machine that requires all
> kinda special drivers and proprietary BS to get it to work properly.
>
> ON THAT SAME NOTE, when I sell a linux computer to a customer, it's
> already installed and configured, the ONLY thing they have to do is to
> put in their ISP's phone number and other settings for email, and well,
> that's about that.
>
> This is an "apples and oranges" thing now. Most of the world DOES NOT
> install their OS. Someone does it for them And in having someone do it
> for them, things are going to get done FOR them that they cannot or will
> not do.
>
> The ONLY OS that's brainlessly installed is MacOS.
>
> Windows is NOT easy to install and configure. OS/2 is NOT easy to
> install and configure. BeOS was NOT easy to install and configure. Any
> version of Windows is not/has not/will not be easy to install and
> configure. Linux is no different.
>
> Wait, sorry, I used to so Solaris setups on Sparcs, and that was
> BRAINLESS as well - I only had to know how to configure the networking -
> which I had to say "yes" to DHCP and then that was it.
>
> If you had your first computer experiences with someone delivering a
> system to you with everything already setup and configured, what would
> your perceptions be?
>
> I have customers that are literal "dummies", but yet, they're running
> linux and they don't really know or care less either which way. They can
> surf, do email, chat, play tunes and DVD's - they don't care. They don't
> care that it's not Windows. Nothing breaks - so they don't have to worry
> about it anyways. They never have questions for me or call with silly
> problems because they can't have those same problems on the OS they're
> running. Occasionally I explain how to download and install something
> (just double click on the program and it installs!) - and that's about
> it. No dramas.
>
> If you were brought up only using a Mac, every other OS is strange and
> has problems. If you were brought up only using linux, every other OS is
> strange4 and has problems. If you were brought up only using Windows,
> every other OS is strange and has problems.
>
> It's a matter of what you're familiar with and how you're basing your
> perceptions, mate.
Excellent, Stephen. It is going to be part of my arsenal when speaking
about Linux.
Very nice!
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