On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 17:04, Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:28:50 -0400 > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: > > >On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:38:06 -0600 > >FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > >> Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". > > > >you misunderstand, I have a certain sympathy with the individualist who > >resists authority, and I recognize that *sometimes* it is necessary to > >take up arms against the imposition of an immoral authority. For > >example, I see nothing wrong with what the Zapatistas did in Mexico, or > >what Che and Fidel did to Batista and his band of criminal thugs in > >Cuba. > ============================ > In retrospect though, tough to consider Fidel an "individiualist", no??? I > often think that Che was partially motivated to leave by the way in which he > saw Fidel moving. My guess is that there are many "individualists" in Cuba > today in hiding, or rotting in prisons :( As some one who's family was in what is now Miami, before it was an army fort, and having a close retrospect on current Cuban Socity, I can say that I do not think Castro was all that wrong. he did manage to rid (with out the mass murder his opponents would claim, and would have pursued) his island of an entire bourgeois class, and while the bourgeois took a great deal of wealth with them (that they all claim to a person did not come with them , but suddenly showed up) he did also manage to surpass the USA in literacy rates, from a populace that had one of the lowest rates of literacy when he took power. not an easy feat to eliminate the bourgeois, educate the masses and redistribute the wealth in such a manner that the bourgeoisie are the only ones upset. Especially if you consider that the bourgeoisie were not killed, but exiled to "a better place" with more wealth. Even more amazing when you consider that 99% of the class that is now "exiled" claim to have been (the children of) "great war heroes". with that many "great war heroes", it must have been a very tough war to have anyone left to exile. I might be tempted to argue that the "Exile-Cubanismo" society allows and encourages and/or tolerates some things that are so very wrong as to justify almost all of Castro's actions. how do you end corruption in a society that accepts bribery as "greasing the wheels"? even in Police matters?
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