On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Strange - I thought this list is full of ultra-right-wing bullshit all the 
> time. But maybe I am european biased as you may be american biased. 
> To most of us, americans seem to have only a right-wing party and an 
> ultra-right-wing party and they put the political center where most europeans 
> see the ultra-right-wing end. Therefore both our perceptions may depend on 
> our points of view and we will never find out if the list hangs to the right 
> or the left.

The socialism and communism in America originated on the European side
of the world, and then attempted to migrate it's movement to the US side
of the world shortly before the failure of the USSR.  So it's not
surprising to me to see that Europeans are primarily of one mind as you
say regarding these issues;  there is a multitude of reasons after all
that we had an American revolution against European totalitarian rule. 
It was all that ultra-left-wing bullshit.  Since that time it's amazing
how weak these "right wing ideas" have made us.  Yep, the US is
practically on the edge of collapse.

> 
> But we seem to generally agree that these discussions do not belong here but 
> on some other list. 

That is true.
> 
> It is btw. not "my little URL" but somebody elses who kindly set that 
> mailing-list up so that OT discussions have a place to go and do not pollute 
> the newbie list and frighten off some potential Mandrake customers - so I 
> would be glad if you honoured the idea instead of belitteling it.

I'm fully aware of who's URL it is since I was here well before he ever
created the site and I was also here a long time before alot of peeps
here joined this list.  However, as I said, I won't stand by while
leftists get their little comments in thinking that there will be no
opposition because right thinking people are too shy to give it.  That's
how this dissent got started; a leftist comment, not a correct one.

But I do agree in principle to what you are saying. It belongs on the OT
list.  I'll be glad to go there whenever they do.

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