On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 4:37 pm, Harv Nelson wrote: > >>or should we have the right to own what we create just like > >>a person that creates a sculpture or paints a picture etc... > > Unfortunately, the creator/author of a work is seldom the person to > reap the greatest benefit from his creativity/creation. Rather, > the distributor of the creative work usually reaps an undue reward > ... RIAA, auction houses, theaters, movie producers, publishers, > etc., are examples. > > I could never understand why recording artists did NOT immediately > latch on to some "nickle-a-pop" revision "napster", etc. and make > it their own. > I wonder if there's a catch we don't know about, or whether it's just that they think they'll never get anywhere without the contract. It seems to be an ideal answer, but obviously many artists aren't convinced.
Anne > > Frankie wrote: > >Once again Joe, we find ourselves at the opposite end of > >the spectrum.. > > > >so you are saying that any creative works that is not a > >painting > >or sculture or other (real world item) has no value?? > > > >so Lord of the rings should have always been free because > >its just > >"information"??? > > > >I actually write small programs, and most often I give them > >away > >for free.. but not always.. > > > >If I spend alot of time working on a script, i reserve the > >right to > >charge for it if I want to.. after all, I spend the hours > >and hours > >writing it. > > > >Also, if 1000's of people start handing a script I wrote > >that is not > >free to all their mates.. > > > >I am just a small guy, I can't afford to do anything about > >it. > >So they would all get away with it.. > > > >I know you probably don't care.. because you didn't spend > >days working > >on it.. but having something I worked so hard on totally > >devalued makes > >me very angry.. > > > >If I give it away for free like I normally do, thats fine, > >it was my > >choice.. but to have you decide its "information" and just > >hand it out > >is wrong and since I can't afford to go after anyone for it, > >they would > >all get away with it if there were not laws protecting me. > > > >So what is the answer Joe, you can't have it both ways.. > >should we all > >stop programmign potentially useful software because its not > >worth > >anything... or should we have the right to own what we > >create just like > >a person that creates a sculpture or paints a picture etc... > > > >Does translation to 1's and 0's make something worthless? > >because the same can be done for your genitical profile.... > > > >:-) > > > >regards > > > > > >Franki > >htmlfixit.com > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill > >Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 9:07 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... > > > > > >On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:33:42 +0100 > > > >Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > >>The result of a > >>programmer's work is *not* information, > > > >Really? Looks like bits and bytes to me, but then I am no > >programmer. > > > >The programmer is being paid for his/her efforts and time, > >in the end. > >Whether he or she releases the source code is up to him/her. > > > >The point is, it is up to creative types, artists, > >programmers, what > >have you, to enforce their own copyrights, it is not a > >matter for the > >criminal law. Sure, downloading Photoshop for free is not > >"right", but > >it is not a criminal offense. No existing property was > >actually stolen, > >no quantifiable harm has been done. That is why the BSA's > >estimates of > >how much money is lost each year to software piracy is such > >a load of > >bull. Who's to say if I didn't download it I would actually > >buy it? > > > >This is why I swithed from warez pirate to OS Linux, I > >didn't want to > >get into that whole sha-mozzle. It's a dead end street. > > > ><hug> > > > >-- > >Joehill > >Registered Linux user #282046 > >Homepage: nodex.sytes.net > >++++++++++++++++++++++ > > 09:01:20 up 8:31, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.21, 0.14 > >Reality does not exist -- yet. > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >------ > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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