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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brant Fitzsimmons
>Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 2:18 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake & patents
>
>
>Marc wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday 26 August 2003 10:26 am, Anarky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>    I got these links from a friend today:
>>>
>>>Online Demonstration Against Software Patents:
>>>http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/index.en.html
>>>Software Patents: who pays and who plays?
>>>http://jonagold.elis.ugent.be:8080/~jonas/why.html
>>>
>>>http://www.ffii.org/ffii-cgi/eintrag?f=eubsa&l=en
>>>http://www.noepatents.org/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>    I don't understand much of the legal stuff .. but from the stuff I
>>>read there everything & everybody might get in trouble ... I mean would
>>>that mean that say MS could say that Mandrake can't have a 'Control
>>>Center' because it's based on their 'Control Panel' idea ... or point &
>>>click solutions? I'm scared! I want to get into game making ... and if
>>>things are this scary than only big companies with big legal
>support can
>>>make it.
>>>
>>>    greets,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>    I dont understand much of the legel crap myself but it seems
>to me that
>>Lindows went through this crap with MS about a year ago and lindows won.
>>   Aside from that I would tend to think that if it came down to
>that Mandrake
>>would just rename control center to system adjustment utility or
>something
>>like that. I must however aggree that the whole thing could be a
>senseless
>>PITA consumeing time energy and money over something pureley
>ignorant while
>>the lawyers get rich.
>>  Some of this stuff could be a last ditch scramble to turn the
>tide of change
>>on the part of companys like MS.
>>  It may be a sighn that MS is more than a little worried!!
>>   This may relate. About 2-3 years ago while looking for a
>linux compatible
>>modem I went to the modem section of ebay and did a search under
>titles and
>>discriptions under Linux and and only came up with 3 or 4 search
>results I
>>did the same thing a few days ago and came up with 167 search results.
>>  Could this be a sort of crude indicater that 42-55 times more
>people are
>>eather useing linux or at least aware of linux than 3 tears ago?
>>  That would be enough to make me worry a hell of a lot if I had
>a financhal
>>intrest in MS.
>>  Ms and SCO may be pulling this sort of patent and copywrite
>crap because
>>they know that their days are numbered. They may  tryany any
>means at their
>>disposal to stop the growth of LINUX and if this is the best
>that they can do
>>we dont have a lot to worry about, LOL.
>>
>>    Marc
>>    KM5KW
>>
>
>Renaming the "Control Center" anything else would still be in violation
>of a patent on the concept of a control center (a central location to
>control configuration of the OS).  If the concept is patented --
>renaming something that does the same thing won't save you.
>
>It's the dumbest fscking thing I've heard in a while, and I've been on
>the OT list. ;-)


FRANKI:

LOL, good one.. totally in agreeance..

but microsoft can't prove they had the central config idea first, cos they
didn't..

my old commodore and a UI called Geoworks, and it had a central
configuration app.. and I don't believe for a minute they were the first
one. (oddly enough, I had a massive sense of dea ja vous (scuse spelling)
when I first saw windows it looked very similiar to geoworks and similar to
DRDOS's GUI also.


rgds

Franki
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