AAAaaaaarrghghghghgh! Frankie? Did you have to do that? Now that
Stephen knows that we appreciate common sense
we'll never get a decent day's work out of him. Damn! Welcome to
"Stephen, The Next Generation" ! LOL!

But since we're on the subject of viruses, and since I've been way to
busy to read every single last post on this subject, I'd
like to ask one thing. Has anyone told the list that an infected
email received on this list may not have come from the person 
named? These types of viruses will (if activated on a
WinBlow$-handicapped system), will run to the address book, grab all
the
addresses in the book, and send out infected emails USING the stolen
addresses?

So, if I'm in Stephen or Frankie's address books, I'm safe (because
they use Linux, and NOT Outlook, or Outlook Express! 
Right Guys??). But if I'm in someone else's address book, and that
address book is the ill-concieved Windows Address Book,
infected emails will not only be sent to me, but can also be sent to
others USING my address, and NOT the address of the 
originating user.

So, "John Smith" ( not his real name ) could have me in his WAB
(Windows Address Book), Sobig could infect his system,
because John is narrow-minded, and still uses Windows (IMHO), and an
infected email could be sent from his PC using MY 
address as the "From" address, when in fact it's John's ( that lazy
ba$tard - I'll fix him for this, I swear!) PC that the virus and 
email came from!

End result? I get dumped on by 300 recipients ( See my reference to
John's heritage above ), who think I sent it, and I may even
get crapped on by John ( who I've just taken a contract out on at
this point! ), because some other idiot in his address book,
got infected, and had John's address in his book, but the virus used
my email address and sent it BACK to John!

Needless to say, John's day's are numbered at this point, and I
wouldn't want to be in his shoes when "Guido" (also not his real
name) shows up with a small-calibre, silencer-equipped handgun, and
"ventilates" John, after which the party starts at my place!    

And you wonder why people on this list use linux? It's because we
need to save our money so we can pay guys like Guido to 
take care of all the "John's" in this world!

Ok, so like I was saying,...If someone has already mentioned this
kind of thing in the Virus-related posts to the list then please
ingore this diatribe. But John? You better start running, buddy!
Guido's coming!

Did that help at all?  Grin! Grin!

Lanman

 


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On 9/7/2003 at 11:32 PM Frankie wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
>>Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2003 10:30 PM
>>To: Mandrake Newbie
>>Subject: [newbie] Virus - let's go over this again, shall we?
>>
>>
>>I really hate having to go over this subject again and again and
again,
>>but there has to be some understanding and education for those that
>>really don't understand the nature of writing a
virus/trojan/script.
>>
>>As of the past few weeks, we've all see SoBig and Blaster bouncing
>>around - ok - so that's not news; however, the understanding must
be
>>solid in as much as the bugs MIGHT get relayed to Windows machines
from
>>unix/linux machines, but the unix/linux machines are in no way
affected;
>>the spread is mostly through email - or relaying through an email
>>server; the bugs cannot be propogated in unix/linux as there is no
means
>>by which they can operate.
>>
>>It is inherently COMPLEX to write a trojan/script/virus for
unix/linux
>>or MacOS 10 - and no matter how wide-spread the usage of unix/linux
or
>>MacOS 10, the intricacies and level of skill and understanding are
in
>>themselves prohibitive; the people that are capable of even doing
so are
>>being paid large sums of money to do real work and they would
barely
>>have the time to dedicate to such a task - and a task it would be.
>>
>>Just due to the absolute nature of the unix/linux/bsd/Mac OS/X
operating
>>system(s) it's hard to even create something based solely on social
>>engineering as programs/scripts cannot be run in the same manner as
on a
>>Windows based OS.
>>
>>So, in essence, no matter how wide spread linux gets, it's going to
be a
>>tad bit more than plain out and out difficult to create the same
type of
>>annoyances that are currently plaguing the Windows-world - and if
you
>>don't believe what I'm stating here in plain English, please by all
>>means, read up on the subject - visit all the hack sites, dig into
the
>>complexities of writing nasties for linux - then you'll come to
>>understand what I'm spewing here.
>>
>>/rant
>>
>
>FRANKI:
>
>Stephen, this new thing of yours.. making sense and stuff.. is very
good,
>you should go with that more often :-)
>
>
>
>
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