Glad to be of help, and I hope your son knows how lucky he is to be young at
this particular time. This is going to be an interesting half century or so
to be alive! Good luck with the "new" system, and tell him that I too built
my box. I wouldn't have a store-bought system, ya' never know what's inside.
When ya' build 'em yourself, ya' get an idea what's goin' on. That's the
best way to learn. That's also what I'm liking about Linux. Ya' gotta' get
your hands a little dirty to make things work right. And at the same time,
ya' learn things ya' never would have known existed with the Win9x system.
Win9x is great for users that don't want to know anything but point & shoot,
and when I want to do e-mail or other web related work, I use it for the IE5
browser and OutLook Express, but any more, I spend 99% of my time in Linux.
Good Luck,
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux Simon&Ernie
> Simon& Ernie,
> We really appreciate all the help we recieved from all of you.
> Actually, its my son's box (he's 14)witch he built from componants he
bought
> from the local computer show,Azus mb running a petium 233 chip. the drive
> was given to him,WD Caviar 1gig. We tried setting it up as primary master
> but could'nt,Bios would only reconize it as a primary slave. Thought
> something was wrong but didn't really investigate it. He installed Linux
> several times and always ended up with the scrolling 10's. We started
> posting querries! Thats when you guys made us start looking more closely
> at the drive setup, we took the jumper off (single drive setup)
reconnected
> the data cable and checked the Bios, AHa, showed up as primary master,my
son
> reinstalled Linux and there she Blows! By the way ,the Bios setup is on
> Auto on all drives.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
>
>
> > (Ernie,FYI the third option is usually labelled CSEL, it's a supposedly
> > semi-automatic setting that I've never seen working!!!)
> >
> > Jan, I didn't really want to mention this step that I had to do because
I
> > wasn't sure that it made any difference in the end. But here goes.
> >
> > What I had was a machine that had LBA set up, and I couldn't get Linux
to
> > work. It would install, but I had a kernel problem of some kind. I then
> saw
> > a post where someone mentioned that LBA is incompatible with Linux.
(Hey,
> I
> > was young, I didn't know better.)
> >
> > The only problem was, the automatic detect on my BIOS would not allow me
> to
> > use normal. So I low level formatted the drive to normal. (Don't ask!).
I
> > could then set everything to normal, install Linux, I was away.
> >
> > Of course, then I got introduced to number 10 and his cohorts. Going
back
> > to the postings, I saw the chap who had mentioned LBA had been put
> straight
> > in no uncertain terms, so I had the wonderful process of getting
> everything
> > back to LBA. Which included an LBA low level format.
> >
> > BTW, I have no idea what a low level format using the wrong disc layout
> can
> > do to the disc, so please don't try it unless you don't really care.
> >
> > So, after weeks of toing and froing, I got back to an LBA system, with a
> > working Linux. Or rather, I got back to the same place, where my other
> > problems appeared, but the 10's didn't.
> >
> > What I am trying to say is, it may not be enough that your BIOS is LBA,
> you
> > may need an LBA drive. I don't know how big your drives are, but if
> they're
> > less than 528Mb (I think), it is possible that you have a 'normal'
drive.
> Go
> > to your drives website, take a look at support, and see what they say
> about
> > it. Because I go for branded HD's, the support is always first rate,
with
> > all info available. This included a comment that the particular drives I
> was
> > working with could be formatted normal or LBA, which convinced me it was
> > alright to do a wrong format low level format. You may also be able to
get
> > the info off your drive. Alternatively, if you want to post your machine
> > specs, I'm sure we can do the digging for you.
> >
> > It does sound like that you have a prebuilt PC, alot of prebuilt ones
have
> > fixed HD jumpers, along with fixed everything else, which means that you
> may
> > not be able to make it master. That shouldn't make any difference
though,
> > although I would recommend you don't put a CD-ROM on the master. The
speed
> > drop is ridiculous!!
> >
> >
> > Simon
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> >
> >
> > Jan,
> >
> > Most of the IDE HD's I've worked with have a jumper on the back of the
> case
> > which can be set to tell the Disk what it is (Master, Slave, or ... I
> forget
> > the third one-)), however the labeling is usually fairly self
explanatory,
> > or there is a diagram on the case of the HD which you can use to
configure
> > the thing. You must set this to the required position, as well as in the
> > BIOS set up. Hope this helps,
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 1:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> >
> >
> > > I set the BIOS disk type to LBA,Normal,and Large and the 10's still
came
> > up.
> > > Also for some reason I can't set the drive to primary master I can
only
> > set
> > > it to primary slave. I don't know if that would have an effect on it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 6:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think someone else has already mentioned the solution. It refers
to
> > the
> > > > BIOS disk types being set to large or normal, when it should be LBA.
I
> > saw
> > > > the same problem, and the solution worked for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And for the other chap who said that they are LO's not 10's, they
> looked
> > > > suspicously like 10's to me, AND I hadn't installed LILO!!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First question is: did you elect to start the x-server
automatically,
> > and
> > > if
> > > > so, are you sure that you installed the correct video driver for X?
A
> > > little
> > > > information about your box, and the way you configured Linux would
> help
> > to
> > > > limit the possibilities as well. Maybe someone else has seen this
> > > behavior,
> > > > but I haven't. Sorry I can't be of any more help,
> > > >
> > > > Ernie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:11 AM
> > > > Subject: [newbie] running linux
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am having trouble running Linux. Instalation went fine but
> when
> > > my
> > > > > computer loads up, it looks like linux is going to load up but a
> bunch
> > > of
> > > > > number 10's go scrolling across my screen and I can't do anything
> else
> > > but
> > > > > shut the computer down. Any help is aprieciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > > Ian Herbert
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