On Monday September 8 2003 11:27 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Most decent HS's now ship with grease, not pads. There's
> > two big problems with pads. They're not as heat transfer
> > efficent as grease, and they deteriorate fairly quickly. Often
> > in just a few months. The hotter the processor runs, the
> > quicker the pads fail.
>
> I hate to horn in on this Tom, but you made it too interesting.
> ;)
No problem, the more the merrier. As I said earlier 'never take
just one person's advice'.
> I would like to add that pads are one shots.
True.
> They are designed
> for one mounting and one only; after that their efficiency is
> shot. Theoretically pads are supposed to have an advantage over
> grease, but only if you never upgrade. (i.e., remove the heat
> sink and put it back with the same pad) Also much of the
> "efficiency advantage" is lost comparatively speaking if you use
> a superior heat compound like Arctic Silver 3, which is according
> to test results the best stuff on the market right now.
>
Here we differ. The pads are not as efficient. They soon
detiorate, often gettin dried out and baked, split an cracked,
almost turned into dust. Even if never disturbed. I've dealt with
'problem hardware', where the pad had burned away to nothin. Even
worse, usually on the cache side of the die where it's needed the
most. Causing the HS to tip slightly, an then not work for the
other side either.
As to 'a superior heat compound like Arctic Silver 3' that's all
marketing B$. Radio Shack's $3 tube that'll build several dozens of
systems is just as good. Even the little generic silicon based bits
of grease they now ship on or with heatsinks is just as good. The
XP 3000+ kit (I've overclocked to 2323mhz from 2166), came with a
generic HS that had grease already on the HS's base. I judged it
too thick an scaped some off. Spread it thinner, cleaned of the
excess, an attached it to the cpu. Temps are normal for an
overclocked system. They wouldn't be a half degree lower with
Arctic Silver. Even in south Texas ;)
> One more suggestion I have, and I think it's the most important
> one, wear your static wrist band secured to a valid earth ground
> while you are inside the machine, so that you will keep your
> computer equipment in mint condition.
>
> LX
I don't fool with those things. Work on the system barefoot on a
tile floor ... no static. Just touch the case every once'n a while
to make sure you're discharged. A few beers doesn't hurt either,
MOF it's a prerequisite. 'Sides, soon as I get to pushin hardware
to it's limit, it's no longer "mint condition" ;)
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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