On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:24:28 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday September 9 2003 02:56 pm, ed tharp wrote: > > > Well, I see Charlie already gave you a best answer. The only > > > thing I'd add, is there's no sense in havin a 64bit desktop, > > > till most all the apps you use are ported to 64bit. Same deal > > > as dual processors (SMP). > > > > I might take a bit of this last one up with you Tom, that be > > there Winblows thinking... about SMP anyway. > > I promise there is a marked difference between an SMP machine > > doing anything in MDK-Linux, and the same machine with out 2 > > cpus. in Winblows, including W2kp, and XP, if they ain't special > > SMP aware apps, there ain't no value, but in MDK, everything > > (when really loading up the box) is faster SMP. the visual > > difference is roughly the same as going from 128 meg ram to 256 > > meg ram, as UP vs SMP > > OK, we've got an argument Ed! ;) I talk to people all the time > (Winblows users), they use their computers (if you can call ready > made laptops computers) to email, use as typewriter, or surf the > web. And they think they need broadband an faster computers. Most > of 'em hunt'n peck like I do on a keyboard, an consult with their > mouse. When they ask me for advice, I tell'm I don't do Windoze, an > I don't do laptops. Not one believes that M$ is their biggest > problem. I don't push the issue. Not even after they say "I think > my computer has a virus". I just offer free Mandrake CD's and > support as my only solution. But I digress ... > > Twin 1 Ghz processors does not a 2 GHz system make. It's still a > 1GHz system. Same speed, just more lanes on the highway. If they're > open to traffic (software). Anything above 600 Mhz, single > processor is good for compiling kernels, specially 'make modules'. > That's about it. BTW, with the lastest kernels a few weeks ago, > my 1.4 Athlon, oc'd to 1.5Ghz, plain old sdram, would take a stock > Mdk config an 'make modules' in 40+ minutes. Now with an XP 3000+ > oc'd to 2.3Ghz, DDR 400 sdram @ DDR 427, it doesn't even take 20 > minutes. If it was dual cpu, it'd most likely still take close to > 20 minutes. It surely wouldn't get done in 10. > > BFD anyhow, everything else is hardly at all noticeably quicker. > My typin is slower I think. An what makes you think addin ram > makes a system faster? If the ram amount was adequate to the task > to begin with, addin more just means it might be able to do more at > the same speed without VM (/swap). 'Cept for Windoze, then the > system gets slower ;> Or in all truth, a Linux industrial strength > multi processor server is slower too with a bunch of ram, if it's > used close to capacity. SMP has little merit on the desktop. For > loaded down servers, a dual processor system surely wouldn't even > cut it. Then bunches are called for. Just not on a desktop, ever. > > So it's not about how fast, it's more a situation of how much. > Sure multiple proccesors can do more in a given length of time, > given lots'a ram... but for a desktop, No. Desktop: UP, run it > hard an put it up wet. Overclocking will produce much more than > SMP. They only use one motor on winning race cars. The multi motor > cars are called 'crowd pleasers', but they're not fast, just showy. Reminds me of the little aluminium 4litre toyota V8 that was being shoved against a tank transfer box and way supercharged. 2000 horse power into 4WD. I read about this combo more than once. Please note folks, these were demonstration hot-rods and not really fit for the road. -- Michael
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