On Thursday 11 Sep 2003 3:29 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > > ..snip
> > >
> > > > > They get sold a box with a firewall, virus-checker and
> > > > > windows update. They wouldn't know it has a firewall, run
> > > > > the virus checker regularly but dont know about the
> > > > > "update" button, and wonder if the windows update reminder
> > > > > is a virus. I myself have only just learned about the
> > > > > joys/pains of system restore which may or may not have been
> > > > > turned on by the retailer. Many of the virus calls i get
> > > > > are solved with Ad-Aware or Sy-Bot Search & Destroy. But it
> > > > > takes 2 hours to show them how to update windows and there
> > > > > virus checker database before i leave the house
> > > >
> > > > Although senior myself, I have been using computers since
> > > > 1981, but I agree totally with your comments.  What's really
> > > > needed is for cyber-cafes to offer daytime classes, maybe 5-6
> > > > people at a time, where someone can teach them these things. 
> > > > I'm sure that many would want to know, but need the assurance
> > > > of a protected setup like this, and can't afford one-to-one
> > > > tuition.
> > > >
> > > > I had hoped to be instrumental in such a scheme at a proposed
> > > > cybercafe, but the whole scheme fell through.  I'd still like
> > > > to see it done elsewhere, though.  I'll bet reasonable fees
> > > > for one tutor spread among 5-6 people could come up with a
> > > > very fair price.
> > >
> > > Rather than offering day classes to try to teach seniors to hit
> > > a moving target by trying to secure windows, I would suggest
> > > day classes to teach Linux, so once they learn a few easy
> > > administration tasks, they are able to be productive with a
> > > minimum of effort.
> >
> > The only problem with that is that the idea of installing their
> > own os would terrify the majority, and they would not even have
> > the comfort of family that already use it.  It is certainly the
> > way to go, but unless someone has huge amounts of time to offer
> > at low rates I'm not sure that it is feasible.  I'm not
> > suggesting that no seniors could cope with this, just that for
> > many it is a leap into the unknown. With a little handholding I
> > don't think it would be any harder than windows for them, but who
> > will provide the handholding?
>
> Provided that they are going to spend ~$100 for the Windows OS,
> ~$50 for the anti-virus software, ~$200 for the Office suite, and
> whatever other costs get rolled into software that is purchased,
> say a decent firewall or whatever, I am sure that someone would be
> willing to do the initial installation of Linux for them for a
> similar price.  If anyone that I knew asked me, ~150 or so would
> buy my time to do a setup of Linux good enough for someone who was
> just going to use standard flavor Linux apps, plus a couple of
> remote support calls if something came up afterward.
>
I'm sure it is feasible - the whole cost would probably still be less 
than a wondows-loaded pc if someone could find a way of getting to 
them early, i.e. before they have spent their hard-earned pension on 
M$ crap.  <thinking aloud> Of course if someone with a business could 
run a seniors intro, with a few machines available, some loaded with 
windows and some with linux, and price tags for the whole setup 
including office software (probably not *the* office, they would buy 
'works' instead), virus protection, firewall, internet setup and so 
on...   Let them try them and find that they can use either equally 
easily.....

Anne
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