On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:55, ed tharp wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 08:33, John Richard Smith wrote: > snipped all sorts of content, but you won't miss it.... > > I'm concerned that at some stage we will encounter technobabble answers > > we don't know how to question and counter. It's not the MEP's one has to > > be concerned about, they know nothing , and are even more ignorant of > > these things than the average list member. It's after the MEP's start > > challenging the highly paid technical experts . These fellows will be > > paid by the industries and vested interest groups who seek this > > legislation . They are well paid full time patent/software types who > > know how to argue their case for themselves to an extent that will pull > > wool over legislators eyes, and I'm just aware that as they present > > their case they will have to be countered with just as strong counter > > arguements . > It does not matter, once the MEPs catch on that this is something a > simple person who is paying attention, but may not spell like an master > of Modern English Literature, or format documents like an attorney > (kinda like the average person driving) they will either begin to show > interest, or (more likely, imo) try to figure out how they can make > money on this too, and if they are only interested in how _they_ profit, > there might not be any point. other than to learn who those pols are and > not vote for them again. ***Thats how we got the digital millennium copy right act in this country*** > > > > > > Still at least the politicions in Europe will know that > > there are concerned people out there, voters, who need to be persuaded > > of change, so at least that much helps, but at the end of the day you > > need good technical based counter arguements to persuade the legislators > > to rewrite their law. *** But will they care? > or good legal based, or profit based. if they need tech answers, be > honest, and say "that is not _my_ area of expertise, but I can get > someone who is a true expert in that area who will answer your > questions, as well as can be". > > How could your MEP begin to know if he was being bullshitted anyway, he > does not know the 'right' answers if it is that technical anyway? *** Actualy They know when they are being bullshitted they just don't care** > > > > Incidentally, I just know at some stage we are going to have the > > arguement for patenting code thrown at us because they will say the > > Americans allow it. Is that really true, or is that just throwing sand > > in the works ? *** Yes it is true tho copyrights are a bigger problem** > I suggest you offer that 'just because the Americans do it' is a poor > reason for anything, and leave that at that. > > > > Also, The whole point about patenting code is that it prevents anyone > > else from creating their own version, whereas if I have understood this > > correctly, while someone may own copywrite of their piece of computer > > code , there is nothing to stop anyone else from writing their own > > independently produced version of that code. So by way of example , > > Robert Louis Stevenson may of written Treasure Island but there is > > nothing to prevent another Author from writing another Book called > > Treasure Island with a similar story , provided it is writen as a fresh > > novel and in his own words, and not just a carbon copy of Stevenson version. > not quite. > there is nothing to prevent someone else writing a book about buried > treasure, islands, and a peg leg ship capt. > so there should not be a patent on writing a bit of code to send out a > fax from a PS document just not everyone can call it 'hylafax'. but it > would be wrong to not allow any one else to have the right to use the > idea of a blinking text in a web page, while it is fine to prevent the > blinking text from being the text of 'RLS's Treasure Island' (Treasure > island may not be the best example as I believe it is in the public > domain, therefor not copyright protected any longer).
> *** Under the old copyright law Mickey Mouse would be in the Public Domain However Disney Corp. Has lots of money them and Sony got the law changed** > > Can't hurt. > If anyone in the EU has a lug in their area, amybe copying a few links > from this thread and forwarding them around might be a nice idea too. > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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