On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 5:14 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday October 5 2003 09:18 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >    It's the new drives that do have the CRC checking shortcuts.
> > > Prior to August 1998, WD's did proper CRC checks, were some of
> > > the best drives.
> >
> > Now you've really confused me, Tom.  I posted Civileme
> > explanation to another list and they said that it was old hat -
> > no longer a problem. I guess the answer is if you've got one try
> > it, if you haven't, steer clear, to be safe.
> >
> > Anne
>
>     Here's the whole story. Overclockers long favored WD, Quantum,
> and IBM IDE drives, particularly WD's. Mainly because they did much
> better on off-spec PCI buses (anything SCSI has problems on an
> off-spec bus). Often necessary to overclock Intel cpu's of the era.
> In the fall of '98, many started complaining of problems and
> failures of WD IDE drives. Research by the more knowledgable
> overclocking gurus, soon revealed that WD had lowered their drive
> specs (8/98). AFAIK their current specs are the same or even lower.
> OTOH, many HDD manufacturers have lowered their specs over the last
> several years, and consequently, their warranty periods.
>
>     While Civileme was/is certainly an authoritative source, an
> even better source, the final answer for the WD-CRC checking
> situation is the linux kernel mailing list. It was the kernel
> hackers that discovered the WD problem, and AFAIK, the improper CRC
> checking is still the situation with WD drives. Your research may
> vary, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel
>
>     I've just avoided WD since '98, but maybe the kernel gurus have
> found a work around for WD's. I doubt it tho (I lurk on lkml),
> since the problem was WD drives depend on (Windoze) software for
> CRC checking rather than including the needed hardware and firmware
> on their drives. It made their drives slightly cheaper and a little
> faster than their competitors drives. For windoze users (and system
> OEM's), this was seen as a Good Thing (and probly why WD did it).
>
>     IMO tho, I'd worry more about tainting a Linux system with
> closed source software and drivers, or other forms of win-hardware,
> before I'd replace a perfectly good working WD drive. IOW's, for
> those with WD drives and no problems with them, or traceable to
> them, I wouldn't give this WD-CRC deal another thought. Bottom line
> is, keep backups, all drives today are lesser quality than they use
> to be.

Thanks, Tom.  Filed for future reference.

Anne
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