On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 16:54, Tom Brinkman wrote:
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>     Barefoot on a tile floor is my method  ;)  If your not familiar 
> with bios ram timing options, set the ram to auto or bios defaults.
> Cas 3, precharge 3, banking disabled are the safest (but slowest) 
> settings.
> 
> > Memtest gave me errors in the five figure area.  I 
> > shutdown and tested each stick individually. One stick is fine
> > and the other gave two errors in test 5. Why would I get 5 figure
> > errors when both sticks are installed and only two when the "bad"
> > stick in installed. If you want the particulars of the output,
> > I'll post them it you like.
> 
>      OK, I've been havin hardware problems myself (due to 
> overclocking too far.

I was overclocking then I reset them the heat was too much.  So I moved
the box down a floor in my house and place it in a small room. Much
cooler here year round.

>  IOW's user error, ME). I narrowed it down to 
> either my ram or the cpu has become weak. Figuring it would be 
> better to try ram first, Crucial delivered a new stick of pc3200 
> this afternoon to replace my existing Kingston (both 512 MB 
> sticks). 

What setting should I use for PC2700? The manual states 100mhz for
PC1600 and 133mhz for PC2100.  I know I can run that higher, is trial
and error the way to go here? I can only do this after verifying my ram.

> I figured if ram wasn't the problem, then at least I'd 
> have twice as much ram ;)

Same thinking here!
> 
>     But, I took some precautions. First I d/l'd a 1 GB ram capable 
> kernel (2.4.22-18mdk-i686-up-4GB) an installed it. 

I'll check on my Mdk cds. Would I be able to urpmi it?

> You'll need to 
> do the same, or add   mem=860M    to your lilo append line for the 
> kernel you're usin.  The 'regular' kernel can't address 1024MB of 
> ram.  Next I underclocked my XP 3000+ cpu to less than a 2200+ to 
> try an mitigate it as a factor when I installed the new ram and 
> tested with memtest86. First with just the new stick.
> 
>    It took 3 tries to get the new ram properly seated and the system 
> to even boot. I also had to swap slots in order to find a combo 
> that worked.

I first put them in slots and 2 and 3.  Then behold I read the manual!
and put them in the right slots together and the errors appeared again
in #5 but in a lower memory range; within the range of the "good" stick.


>  By now I've determined that it's my cpu that's 
> fragile, not the ram. So I'm usin both sticks now. Memtest86 checks 
> both sticks together with no errors (an an underclocked cpu).
> 
>    BUT, a word about memtest86. There is no such thing as a software 
> ram tester. While memtest86 is runnin, your whole system is being 
> used, particularly cpu/cache/ram and motherboard. In memtest86's 
> configuration tho (press the <c> key while it's runnin), you can 
> turn cpu cache off. Press c, then 1, then 2, then 0.  It could be 
> the cache areas of your cpu generating the errors.
> 
>     So, install both sticks of ram and the kernel I did (or any 
> 'enterprise' kernel) or add  mem=860M   to lilo. Don't forget to 
> run 'lilo' to make the change effective. Then get
>    ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz      and unpack it.
> cd to the directory you unpacked to and run 

> ./mprime -m

I already have it.  I'll get the kernel setup and give it a try.


> > oh btw I didn't notice a selection that would allow me to save
> > output to disk.  Is there one?
> 
>      Read the docs, look at all the options when you press <c>.
> I believe the error output would be shown in the bottom half of 
> memtest86's screen, and there is an option to also write to file. 
> But since I've never had any errors, I can't verify that.

I'll look again.

Terry

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