On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:59:44 +1300
Sharrea Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > et wrote:
> > >On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > >>I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess
> > >you>mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything
> > >>that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios
> > >I>cannot tell what may be dead.
> > >>
> > >>If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into
> > >bios>If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility,
> > >though it>does say "no signal" and the neon led lights up, which to
> > >my mind>indicates it wants to work.
> > >>If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
> > >>bios at least ?
> > >>If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
> > >>could block my access to bios for instance ??
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I think I have found the problem.
> > >>
> > >>My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
> > >>turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy
> > >replacements?>
> > >>John
> > >
> > >yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I
> > >ain't
> > > sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a
> > > control circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more
> > > heat. I still think you need to blow out the power supply fan.
> >
> > At the moment  I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.
> >
> > I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage
> > as the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply,
> > not ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of
> > Crystal Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite
> > nicely . However I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the
> > bios. Keyboard is dead, though optical mouse lights up. I'm
> > wondering whether Geforce3 has heat detection, and I need to somehow
> > kick the bios into starting again.
> >
> > So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all
> > out and clean it up.
> 
> Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one). 
> My next bet would be the motherboard.
> 
> About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear
> the fan whir on the PSU.  Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt
> to try on my system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs). 
> So I pulled the PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working
> properly as someone suggested.  The fan worked no problem so I assumed
> the next thing to try was motherboard.  Bought a new motherboard only
> to find that it WAS indeed the PSU!!!  So, in short, even if the PSU
> fan is working, doesn't mean that enough power is supplied to your
> system.
> 
> THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing.  I
> tried my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU
> for her - only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Sharrea
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> 
> 
        If you think that the PSU does not have enough power to drive your
computer, unplug everything (harddrive, cdrom, floppy, etc.) and try
again. Even a 200W CPU should be able to drive just a motherboard,
memory, and a video card.
        If that does not work, I would suggest checking the memory. If the
memory is bad, nothing will happen (you won't even get anything on the
screen). However, usually if you have a memory problem you will get some
kind of a beep from the PC speaker, which reminds me: usually
motherboards issue beeps when something is wrong prior to loading the
BIOS. Different number of beeps for different things. Your MB manual
should have a list of what different number of beeps mean.

        I hope this helps!!

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