On Sunday 14 December 2003 03:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >>I just got an Asus A7V600. �It works nicely with 9.2,
> > >> though only three of my five speakers work with onboard
> > >> sound. �What the hell, my sound card should be arriving on
> > >> Wednesday, so I can have fun wrestling with that instead
> > >> ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Sir Robin
> > >
> > > That's not on the TWiki page either, Sir Robin! � Consider
> > > your hand slapped <g>
> >
> > [rubs hand]
> > OK, it's up there.
>
> Seen it, thanks. �We'll get that list to a really usable size
> before long.
>
> Anne
I'm just gonna reiterate some previous cautions I've mentioned
about TWiki (for which I'm probly still in the doghouse).
First of all the intention and effort is laudable. It will only
continue as such if it's totally constantly maintained and
changed. It has no advice (opinions) contained that are carved in
stone. It should prominently mention that the suggestions
contained in various parts, are just that suggestions, opinions,
ie, 'worked for me' and 'YMMV'. Not giving the impression of real
world real time solutions. One of the reasons MandrakeUser became
ineffectual and in many parts wrong and dated.
For hardware, well idiots like me know that's a changing deal,
month to month. Case in point, I suspect Robin might'a got an
AV7600 due to my referrences to it on the OT_her list. With
latest 2.4.23 kernel's the board needs 'nolapic' passed to it to
avoid kernel panics, specially under a load like sound or video
encoding/decoding. A board difficiency or a need for the new
kernel to mature more? To state either would be just an opinion.
The board is great for 9.2 an early 10.0, but will it still be
good for 10.0 final? Can prior kernel releases function with it?
I've all but completely eliminated panics by moderating ram
timings, increasing Vcore and IO voltages a touch, and using
2.4.23 kernel versions cautiously. Could be try'n to change PCI
slots I use for the one card in the system. Point is, variables,
and the permutations are a real problem. Then add in users.
Before I got an AV7600 I researched it's components. I didn't
use twiki's or hardware sites. I use Google and mailing list
archives. Particularly the current linux-kernel ml (lkml). The
study requires searching by components. Searching by mobo model
number is mostly useless. For example, the integrated NIC is very
new to market, 3c940. It has a 3com/Asus Linux driver for it,
that doesn't work with (compile against) newer kernels. NBD for
me, I had an old D-link card sittin around, and the onboard 3c is
easily disasabled in bios.
Similar deal with the integrated sound. The (separate, not part
of the VIA south bridge chipset) is an Analog Devices Inc.
ADI-1980, AC97 codec compliant. Fortunately, the VIA driver in
current kernels works for this chip. For me, and my speaker
system. It's a 6-channel sound device, that as Robin seems to
have found, doesn't support more than 2 chl. for his use. Works
for me, not for him. Variables.
Nothin on the board is of any other particular interest, other
than the KT600 chipset with 400Mhz cpu support. Since this isn't
really new to the Linux kernel, VIA chipset support is almost a
sure thing goin in. A read of lkml would probly be more
discouraging for any other chipset vendor, specially nForce*.
Well there are also SATA ports, but anybody who's a bit savy
would know to avoid SATA anyhow, any OS. Does an opinion like
that reflect TWiki 'documentation'? I think not but Google or
lkml will lead you too it.
Now these motherboard, hardware and such are particulars, and
involve opinion. The info doesn't belong in a TWiki, and probly
won't be valid longer than next month. Same deal with
applications and configuration. How to do it in the X.1 version
is completely wrong for X.11. Google and the lkml are by nature
not as susceptible to such degeneration. Opinons are always
inescapable.
So IMO, TWiki should prominenty be displayed as "At the current
time, this is a best guess from various contributors, mostly
gathered from mailing lists. It is not supported or endorsed by
anyone. Use at your own risk."
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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