On Monday 26 January 2004 01:53 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there
> for the moment,
> Anyway no apparent problems there.

   I don't agree, 1 hour is an indication, IME you pass after 
about 8 hours or more, ie, overnite.

> So now for bios reset, 
> FSB=133

     Does your board also have FSB jumpers? Better boards do, a 
long with bios BSB settings.

> =======
> Your choice: 17
>
> Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
> Please read stress.txt. �Hit ^C to end this test.
> Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K
> FFT length. ==================Total
> Lockup======================
> The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse,
> nothing, only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to
> partitions and everything.
>
> Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a
> faulty CPU(Athlon 1800)

    More likely motherboard and/or ram, overheating, maybe PSU.
Are all those components AMD approved?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869,00.html

> but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133
> setting and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder
> and without any stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a
> faulty cpu to my mind.
>
> I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running
> cpu's like mine at it's maximum capacity.

    Actually, I believe your thinking is 180� off.  W2K uses 
CPU/cache/ram very sloppily. Particularly motherboards, cache, 
ram, and harddrives.  Often marginal systems will function with 
M$ crap, but fail Linux's greater demands on them. 

   Mandrake makes my  XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz 
FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*.  Mencoder or Trancode is 
fast and no problemo. Even for 7+Gig DVD ripping, encoding, or 
800MB movie resizing. Same for mprime 17, or cpuburn's 'burnK7'.  
Many many kernels since 2.21.x, now 2.6.2rc1, with this hardware.  
Often with low latency, preempt versions.

> Others may disagree, 
> but that is the feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed
> that there is a windblows version of mprime, it might be
> interesting if I downloaded it and installed in W2K and run the
> test again from there. But for now food for thought.
>
> John

   Try it, there's also a Winsux version of cpuburn. BUT, I 
suspect you can't use the correct FSB for your Athlon because of 
a marginal motherboard and/or ram.  Could be ram timings in bios 
if you have them too tight. Try 3-3-3, banking disabled. Who 
makes the ram, and what are it's specs? Same ? for motherboard, 
PSU, video card and driver. What kernel parameters? IE, the 
append= line from lilo.conf.
 
    Once again "it works in Windows" is a very derogatory 
statement to make about your hardware.  Please don't be offended, 
but Windoze users are the most likely to jump to wrong/worst 
conclusions, and usually are saddled with the most 
misconceptions. Even with Linux's sricter demands, most all 
problems are user > hardware > software > and lastly OS.  And 
I'll repeat, if you can't run mprime 17 overnite, your hardware 
isn't suitable for Linux use. Guess I need to add, at proper 
settings and configuration.
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