On Sunday 15 February 2004 10:08 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:Well, I would say it's a case of both, the number of lanes and the speed at which the traffic is allowed to proceed safely allong it's way. So 64bit architecture and FSB surely are a trade off one against the other. I hear talk in the press that heavy traffic servers are going 64bit now, so I guess they already know about it's virtues. I'm mainly a desktop user with heavy use video/graphical hopes and ambitions. So anything that helps to make that better is of prime consideration to me. However, if, as I am not, I were merely an emailer come letter writer sort of desktop user then 64 bit is hardly worth the candle, I should of thought. So from my point of view and other such users like me, the immediate to medium term outlook, I would want 64bit architecture. What interested me about the article I read was that this AMD processor was said to work both in 32bit as well as 64bit architecture, which means, as is inevitably going to be the case, we can run OS's designed, some for 32 bit and some for 64 bit on the same harddrive. No ? Since I don't mind dual booting at all, this has attractions for my hopes and ambitions. I imagine that we will need faster hardrives to match all this ? If that is the case then I'm going to have to think hard about mobo/cpu/hardrive and possibly memory as one upgrade package, reusing things like monitors/dvd/cdrwiters/adrives/smartcardreaders etc, etc.
On Saturday 14 February 2004 11:15 am, John Richard Smithwrote:
Do you really actually gain anything with 64 bit? 32 bit is fast, and 64 bit can claim to be faster, but you're still executing larger instructions. It may be doing it faster, but the instruction is still larger, so is their actually a noticeable speed increase? I doubt most people who are running off to buy these have any clue what the hell they are talking about lol. This being faster is just like using the analogy for a road. The speed limit may be 64, but how many lanes does it have? Remember, a road with a smaller speed limit but more lanes will out perform as long as the speed limit isn't a LOT lower ;)I will want to be looking to construct afresh. Whats
your thinking about 64 bit architecture. I read
recently AMD have a chip that runs both 32 and 64bit
though I don't know what mobos will suit. Will Mandrake
keep up with this developement ? Will anyone be
shipping OS's for 64 bit by this time next year?
There's already 64bit OS's includin Mandrake. You'll need somebody else to comment tho. I'm not interested in 64bit at this time. I think until there's a preponderance of software ported to 64bit, you're better off with 32bit hardware.
I just don't have enough time to do the searching forI'm afraid you'll need to do some of your own
equipement and such like, tend to leave
that to others, and take advice,
research. As I said before, to settle on a board that
fits your requirements. As Charles' reply to this thread
points out, 3d/acell for KT600 chipsets is a Linux
(kernel) problem. Doesn't affect me cause I avoid closed
source proprietary drivers. Actually there's a whole
lot'a hardware that's goin to be a problem for a while
with 2.6.x kernels and closed source drivers and
software.
So , to my mind it's going to come, and yes, Ithink it has advantages, but maybe not everyone will want it, at least not immediately.
John
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