Awesome, thanks for such a great summary.  Little by little I'm getting things how I 
want them.

Job


On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:35:05 +0200
Alaa The Great <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:56:19 +0000 (GMT)
> "J.I. Evers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> > 
> > -What exactly does startx do?
> 
> it starts your default desktop
> 
> essentialy what it dows is start the X server and run ~/.xinitrc
> if ~/.xinitrc does not exist it starts /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> 
> in mandrake all /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc does is run another script
> /etc/X11/Xsession Xsession starts the firsttime wizard if its the
> first time to run X otherwise it starts the desktop mentioned in
> ~/.desktop or the default system desktop /etc/sysconfig/desktop
> if all this fails it falls down to some hardcoded defaults (like
> trying icewm, then trying twm, then just opening a terminal etc.)
> 
> of course these scripts do more (like set your default browser) you'll
> need to read if you really want to know the gory details.
> 
> 
> > -How else can I start the x server?
> 
> you could use xinit
> xinit starts an X server and runs the command you pass it (or
> ~/.xinitrc if none exist).
> 
> xinit /usr/bin/pekwm
> 
> starts an X server with pekwm as the session manager, if pekwm quits
> the X server closed.
> 
> or you could do it the very hard way and start the X server on your
> own
> 
> X
> 
> then attach some client t it,
> rxvt -display :0
> 
> or something like that, I never tried it.
> 
> > -What might be the problem with kdeinit?
> > -How would I start a different window manager (gnome, pekwm, icewm,
> > ...)?-What does startkde, startgnome and starticewm do?
> 
> well best way to start wm's Mandrake knows about (the system knows
> about a wm if it has an entry in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/) is to install
> the package Xtart then run
> 
> Xtart
> 
> however you could use the xinit command to start any X session, you
> could pass it a wm or even just a single X client (I run wine this
> way).
> 
> AFAIK startkde and startgnome are scripts that setup ad start the DE's
> for you you can use these with xinit
> 
> xinit `which startkde`
> 
> cheers,
> Alaa

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