-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On March 19, 2004 10:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 March 2004 16:10, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > It makes me feel and look stupid, and it doesn't do a Hell of a lot > > for MandrakeSoft's reputation either. > > MandrakeSoft can't do right, whatever they do. With recent versions > they've been bad-mouthed for releasing distros with insufficient > testing. Not enough people can or want to run cooker, so this time > they announced that the release would be around three months later, > but available for download at the usual time for those who love to > mess around with bleeding edge. > > The moral's simple - if you don't want to do that, wait for the full > release. > > Anne
As with almost everyone that's responded directly to my complaints Anne you're assuming that I don't want to test. That's the opposite of the facts. I not only want to test on my own system, I want to do a test (at least) install on every system I assemble for someone else. Then if it's stable enough I'll usually set up an easy way for the owner(s) to keep it current and send an e-mail with instructions on how and when to change the sources from cooker/beta/release candidate whatever to the current "stable" repositories. Or show up and do it for them myself. The point of my continuing and soon to terminate diatribes has been that I found the "Won't boot from disk 1" problem at the first pre beta cooker snapshot and posted about it on cooker, then kept trying every new "release" and hoped for a clue as to why. Now someone is working on the bug....almost 8 weeks later. In simple language the point was this; I've been trying for _two freakin' months_ to install the release so that I *could* test it. It ain't working, there are no message displayed anywhere, it's almost as though the system hangs without locking anything but the CD-ROM and the display. I can understand ignoring "bug reports" with no information. That isn't what I did since I couldn't _find any information_ because the disk wouldn't boot, and some versions would boot but wouldn't go past stage 1, graphically or in text mode. With or without flags. The moral therefore is even simpler; people need to remember how much complaining about Mandrake I've done in the years I've been on these lists versus how much I've tried to help others. With that in mind it may be advisable to either; 1.) ignore me totally as happens on the rare occasion that I post on cooker, or; 2.) learn to read and try to understand what I actually did post and why. There's no need to jump to Mandrake's defense here. The statement; in context, was that if the installer doesn't work at all, or if a working Windows install is terminated and destroyed due to installer action such problems make me *and MandrakeSoft* look stupid and does not help develop a reputation for Quality. Locally anyway. I've kicked this dead horse long enough. I'm dropping it. Warm regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org If I promised you the moon and the stars, would you believe it? -- Alan Parsons Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW0uwZqvqlrLPr5YRAjevAJ0Zh6PFAxQtvjO5dIa5RXuYn5hvQQCeKRGd E4+QPzNESwum5Rq+Tk7N7fc= =MHZP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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