Well, once I found the view message source option, I poked my nose into the messages that had crashed me, and the ones that hadn't. All of the emails that I still had which crashed me said in the headers that they came from Outlook Express. All of the ones that worked fine for me said they came from Ximian. So I suppose the problem comes down to Outlook Express sucking.
[...snip...]
I suppose that means one of three things:
A whole lot more than three, one would suppose. :-)
1) Suck it up, and deal with it. So what if Thunderbird closes on me once in a while, it runs perfectly fine when I restart it, and it takes but a second to restart it.
True; TB seems to be rather resilient in that regard.
2) Convince OOzy to stop using Outlook Express, however there may be a very good reason for the use of said evilness, like accessing email from a computer one is not allowed to install things on.
Frankly, I think the notion that Outlook Express /per se/ is at fault is a spurious one, though we all know OE users do hideous things like [ahem] top post ... can you /imagine/?? <shudder>. Possibly some setting /in/ that person's OE that's causing the incompatibility/crash ... I would think that more likely.
3) Take over the world and remove all Microsoft products by force. But I haven't gotten around to taking over the world yet, and that would be too much work.
That would make you just as bad as M$ if you did, anyway, so not a good option (for the rest of us ;-)
Option one seems the best bet for me right now. Please let me know if anyone else has any ideas. Thanks!
Well, I'm not "anyone else," but assuming you're willing to accept another idea from the same tired ol' source, how about this? ...
In TB, under Tools | Options | Fonts, then the "Languages" section, there is an option to define the character sets (Western, or whatever), and then to apply them to all messages. Now, if it /is/ a matter of some oddball character set being chosen by the sender, wouldn't that eliminate the problem, if TB ignored it and displayed it in the way you chose?
Of course, (1) I may be misunderstanding what's going on or (2) how that option actually works, or even (3) the option may not actually work at all [yet], much as the option to ignore all incoming "read receipt" requests hasn't worked for me.
But trying it might be easier than going for world domination.
Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
Amy wrote:
To start, I'm running Thunderbird 0.6. I have all the mail from this list viewing threaded. I have found that when I open certain emails from the list, Thunderbird just up and closes itself. I've noticed the following things about all of the emails: They're always the start of a thread, they're always from OOzy. However, I've also noticed that not all emails that are the start of a thread from OOzy make Thunderbird close.
Funny you should mention that, as I had the same problem today, and on messages from the same party. With the preview pane enabled, clicking on the message would immediately shut down TB.
Since I can't open these emails at all, I can't see if there's anything about them that could be causing a problem with Thunderbird, so I don't know if there's a solution available to fix it. The two most recent emails which cause this problem for me at the ones titled "[newbie][HAB] 40 GB USB Drive" and "[newbie] What is Cooker?".
I don't recall now which message/thread it was, but it was from today. You can, of course, turn off the preview pane and then select the message and chose "View Source" ... I didn't have much time, but just for the heck of it I did that before deleting the message and IIRC the only thing that stood out to me in a quick scan of the headers was there was an odd (to me) charset defined there. I didn't have the time to research it further (and noted that none of the respondents in the thread mentioned any problem at the time, so I assumed it was just me :-)
If any one has any ideas what's causing this problem, and/or has any suggestions on how I can stop it from happening anymore, other than switching mail clients because I love Thunderbird, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Not sure if it's the charset or something else, but you could /try/ filtering on that header and sending those e-mails to an "Unsafe" folder or something, then view those in the folder with the preview pane off. Maybe?
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