Sorry for the long silence. I have been following the messages in this group
with interest, but I took a break from trying to get Linux to work. I'm
interested in trying the OS and have been for quite a while, but I dread the
learning curve. I have a love/hate relationship with Windows. I love it for
its ease of use, and I don't think Linux can compete well in that area yet,
but I could be wrong. It may just be an issue of familiarity. I don't often
have to think about how to do something in Windows. I just do it. It's
second nature after 14 years. On the other hand, I HATE Windows for its
instability, flakiness, lack of security, etc. and I have the grey hairs to
prove it! :-)

Anyway, I ran that "cat" command, and this is what's in that configuration
file:

DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
BROADCAST=151.164.1.255
ONBOOT=yes
MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes
WIRELESS_ENC_KEY=""

I ran the tail command, and got this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# tail /var/log/messages
Jul 23 17:11:34 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Jul 23 17:11:34 localhost kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa
0x41E1
Jul 23 17:11:37 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255
port 67 interval 18
Jul 23 17:11:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255
port 67 interval 16
Jul 23 17:12:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255
port 67 interval 3
Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.
Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost ifup:  failed.
Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed
Jul 23 17:12:22 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Jul 23 17:12:22 localhost kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa
0x41E1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]#

Any idea what's wrong with my setup?

I'm beginning to wonder if I just have a bad Mandrake install. I booted the
system up into Linux, left the room for a few minutes to go take care of
something else, and when I came back, my computer had locked up, something
it NEVER does in Windows, so it has to be a software issue, I would think.

BTW, I tried vi and emacs, and was lost, although I'm sure both are great
programs once you know how to use them. I then tried gedit, and was greeted
with a reasonably familiar interface that I could use right away without
having to think too much about how to do what I needed to do. Again, the
familiarity issue. Familiar is GOOD. :-)

Thanks,
Jeff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: Re[4]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem


JR> Okay, I have the network card set to DHCP. I have the IP addresses that
I
JR> got from SBC entered in to the ADSL connection screen. The network card
is
JR> not finding an IP address via DHCP. I'm also getting an error that says
JR> something like, "SIOCDELRT not found". I don't think those are the
actual
JR> words to the error message, but the general idea. What is SIOCDELRT?

JR> I tried going to 192.168.0.1, but I got a "connection refused" error in
JR> Mozilla.

JR> Thanks,
JR> Jeff

JR> ----- Original Message ----- 
JR> From: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
JR> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
JR> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:51 PM
JR> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem


>> Is it necessary to specify IP addresses anywhere at all?
>>
>> I'm not sucessfully online in Linux yet. Don't know what I'm missing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:40 PM
>> Subject: Re[2]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem
>>
>>
>> JR> Hey Justin,
>>
>> JR> They use PPoE. Do I have to give the network card an IP or anything
at
>> all?
>> JR> I have been specifying PPoE when setting up the internet connection.
>> Right
>> JR> now, the network card is set for "static" with an IP address
JR> specified -
>> the
>> JR> primary IP that SBC gave me.
>>
>> JR> I apologize in advance for any stupid questions. This is very new to
JR> me.
>>
>> JR> Thanks,
>> JR> Jeff
>>
>> JR> P.S. Also, I apologize for posting my message in HTML. Ooops!
>>
>> JR> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> JR> From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> JR> To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> JR> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:20 PM
>> JR> Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem
>>
>>
>> JR>> Hello,
>> JR>>
>> JR>> I downloaded Mandrake 10 recently, and it works fine except
>> JR>> for sound issues and an inability to get on the Net with it. My
>> JR>> primary concern right now is getting online.
>> JR>>
>> JR>> I have SBC Yahoo! DSL, and I am using a Speedstream 5100
>> JR>> modem. What do my settings need to be in the Network setup? I have
>> JR>> the IP addresses that SBC gave me, but they made it clear that
>> JR>> they do not support Linux.
>> JR>>
>> JR>> I assigned the primary IP address to my NIC, so it no longer
>> JR>> complains about not being about to find an IP, but there does
>> JR>> appear to be a program missing at boot that has to do with the
>> JR>> Internet connection. I do recall a notice that the download
>> JR>> version may not work with some DSL modems due to not having
>> JR>> commercial software included with it. Is this the issue I am
>> JR>> having, and is it possible to get online with the free download
>> JR>> version over a DSL connection?
>> JR>>
>> JR>> Thanks very much,
>> JR>> Jeff
>> JR>>
>>
>> JR> Does your ISP use PPoE or PPoA (Point-To-Point over Ethernet/ATM)?
JR> Many
>> DSL
>> JR> providers do, in which case you'll have to set up your DSL modem for
>> PPoE
>> JR> (DrakConnect should make this easy).
>>
>> JR> A Google Groups post:
>> JR>
>>
JR>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mandrake+speedstream+5100+support&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&selm=jK-dnc4Z2flGHrbdRVn-tw%40giganews.com&rnum=1
>>
>> JR> mentions that the hardware should work "out of the box", so the issue
>> JR> regarding DSL modem interoperability shouldn't be a problem. I'll bet
>> that
>> JR> you have it set up for plain ol' ethernet and DHCP and the ISP
JR> requires
>> JR> either PPoE or PPoA.
>>
>> JR> Again, drakconnect should make this real easy.
>>
>> JR> ______________________________
>> JR> Justin Grote
>> JR> Network Architect, CCNA
>> JR> The Whistlepunk
>> JR> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-)
>> JR> SMS:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-)
>> JR> Phone: (208) 631-5440
>>
>>
>> This DSLReports FAQ should help if you lost the instructions:
>>
>> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8720
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
>> Justin Grote
>> Network Architect, CCNA
>> The Whistlepunk
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-)
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>> Phone: (208) 631-5440
>>
>>
>>
>>


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JR> ----


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Just got back from the John Fogerty concert up at Brundage Mountain in
McCall, Idaho. Great concert on a gorgeous mountain with a *rainbow* in the
sky. Kick ass. Sorry your day isn't as good as mine :)

Anyhow, that SIOCDELRT usually means a configuration problem in my
experience (SIOC are calls to the TCP/IP stack, SIOC = stack in/out calls,
DELRT = delete route). It means you tried to delete a route that doesn't
exist.

Here's a quick way to check if everything is OK.

Open up a terminal (the command line is your friend), and type:

cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or open the file in your
favorite text editor)

This command will show you what is inside the ifcfg-eth0 file. This file is
where your network settings for your ethernet card are. Make sure there is a
line in there that says:

BOOTPROTO=DHCP

If not, open the file in your favorite text editor (vi, emacs, nano, gedit,
etc.) and put it in there.

Open up another terminal (or hit CTRL-C to stop the "less" program), become
root by typing:

su

and your root password. then type:

service network restart

You should see messages similar to this:

shutting down eth0      [ ok ]
starting eth0           [ ok ]

If your eth0 doesn't come up (says [ FAILED ]), type this at the console
(while still as root):

tail /var/log/messages

Copy the messages in there and email it to the list and we can probably find
your exact problem.

Not a good first impression of Mandrake is it? I've rarely seen this problem
on a default install, you're just lucky :).


______________________________
Justin Grote
Network Architect, CCNA
The Whistlepunk
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-)
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Phone: (208) 631-5440



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