On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 22:35, John Wilson wrote: > On September 15, 2004 07:42 am, JoeHill wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:25:59 -0400 > > > > Ronald J. Hall disseminated the following: > > > "I love my country but I fear my government" > > > > Amen to that. I think that's something that most people have in common, to > > varying degrees, all over the world. > > > > > Having said that, just let me note that no matter how bad my government > > > got, I'd never turn my back on my country, or disavow it. > > > > Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'country', at least to me. If > > you mean the people around you, that you live with and work with, and all > > the people that share your goals and values, basic to most of us, like > > 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (of course, in Canada it's: > > 'Life, Liberty, and the Security of the Person'...typical vague and somehow > > disturbing Canadian shite), then of course no one would disavow their > > country, IMO. > > > > Don't worry, though, the real people, the people that really make up a > > 'country', always win. The Government is always at a disadvantage: > > > > http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/s/SNAFUprinciple.html > > Actually, it's Peace, Order and Good Government which you, of all people > should know, Joe. > > And it's been used in rather disturbing fashion. AKA the War Measures Act in > 1970 when we Canadians were dealing with our own happy band of terrorists in > Quebec. The Patriot Act, for all the it stinks to high heaven, is a piker > conpared to what we went through here at the time. And better than 90% of > the population supported it at the time! > > It's one reason that I dispair of all the criticism that goes on among my > holier-than-thou countrymen who seem to forget our own track record when we > flay George W Bush. We do that while naming mountains, airports and anything > else not nailed down after Pierre E Trudeau who imposed the war measures act. > Need I point out our hypocracy? > > And, though you wouldn't know it by all the uninformed hand wringing going on > in some circles in Washington, DC, our current security laws haven't > elimiated that bit of wartime nonsense. It's just been renamed, repackaged > and taught to smile. > > Oh, and guess which country is home to the most developed, efficent and most > secret communications interception and decryting agency on the planet? Why > it's Canada. > > For all that I'm still Canadian and always will be. I just don't trust > government much. Any government. Then again, I don't expect much from them > either. > > Not bad for a unreconstructed lefty :) > > ttfn > > John
Nice stuff, John! Again! <g> LX
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