On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 12:41 -0500, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
> On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:14 pm, Jack wrote:
> > Is there any way of installing KDE 3.3 *without removing KDE 3.2*?  I've
> > read quite a few accounts of a straight KDE upgrade de-stabilizing some
> > systems.  I would like the option of simply logging in back to 3.2 if
> > this should happen to my system.
> >
> > Anyone know how to do this?
> 
> Hi Jack. You can use Konstruct to do this. Download the latest stable release 
> from here:
> 
> http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/
> 
> Make sure you have the following RPM's installed:
> autoconf2.5
> tiff-devel
> libldap2-devel
> bzip2-devel
> 
> With URPMI, just issue the following:
> 
> # urpmi autoconf2.5 tiff-devel libldap2-devel bzip2-devel
> 
> Make sure you go into text only mode before you start to build KDE:
> 
> # init 3
> 
> Now, go into the konstruct directory and edit gar.conf.mk, making sure 
> everything is set the way you want it (it defaults to setting up KDE in your 
> home directory, but you can easily put it system wide - if you want to see my 
> copy of the gar.conf.mk to do that, let me know). Now, just go into the 
> meta/everything directory (if you want to build KDE with all of the utilities 
> and whatnot), and just issue a 'make install'. 
> 
> Building KDE from scratch does indeed take awhile, even on a fairly fast 
> machine. I built mine system wide, and I have been VERY impressed with it 
> (I'm running 3.3.1). It took over 8 hours to download and compile (I'm 
> running on an Athlon 2400+XP, with 1 gig of dual channel 333MHz RAM (running 
> at 266MHz, with the compiler optimized for AMD Athlon XP), and a cable 
> connection that nets me a download speed of over 635K per sec. from certain 
> servers). So, as you can see, it'll take awhile no matter what you're using, 
> but it's well worth the wait. The best thing to do is, start it before you go 
> to bed, and when you get up in the morning just check to make sure it's not 
> needing something else - more than likely, if you have those packages 
> installed that I listed above, you won't need anything else. Just be patient 
> and let it build, and then give it a try when it's done.
> 
> Let us know how it turns out for you if you give it a try...

Hi Randall... thanks for the reply.  Being a silver member of Mandrake
Club, I already have CD4 with the KDE 3.3 on it.  Is there a way of
doing this using the install drake instead?  Or failing that, is there a
way of adapting your technique to eliminate the necessity of downloading
the KDE 3.3 and getting if from my cd instead? And finally, I would most
definitely want to see a copy of your gar.conf.mk to make sure I was
doing everything right.

(On a minor note, would allowing the default of setting up KDE 3.3 in my
home directory okay?  Would that leave the 3.2 alone?  Would I then have
the 2 KDE's showing up as desktop options upon logging in?)

- Jack

PS  Sorry for the completely newbie type questions.  Having formerly
consulted in the Windows (and Dos) world for years, I'm gaining an
appreciation for how my customers must have felt!!!   :-)



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