Allan,
    (Please note that as I write this on 6/7, I have not checked my email in 
several days.)  Yes, I have learned a lot reading in the newbie list, and 
I've only been doing if for a couple of months.  I've found that sometimes 
others on newbie ask about some problem I about to deal with.  And I did 
submit a couple of my question to this list (though not in the form below); I 
don't know if there have been any responses or I will do so again.  Even just 
having general responses has been very helpful--for instance knowing that 
others ARE able to have WordPerfect and StarOffice helps me.  Suggested 
tactics also help me.  I've stopped reinstalling Mandrake; I'm getting 
confident enough that I might be able to fix problems.  I've been bogged down 
and haven't had a chance to get back to several things.  
    And for anybody that didn't read between the lines correctly, whereas 
there is a definite need for professional support (and it's quality reflects 
on McMillian) this list has been far more beneficial to me.  Thanks to all of 
YOU!!  -Gary-


In a message dated 6/3/2000 2:31:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< Gary....this newbie list and its partner, the expert list,
 have a much broader knowledge base, especially for solving
 Linux Mandrake specific problems, than any paid email or phone
 support system could possibly have.  I'm sure that you'll be
 able to solve your problem using one or both of these lists. 
 Using them with, perhaps some extra patience, as not everybody
 who participates sees every message that gets posted.
 
 Alan
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > 
 >     Let me be clear, I'm not complaining, rather I'm using my experiences 
and
 > expectations to make a point.
 > 
 >     Poor support makes Mandrake look bad.  I have been trying to get a 
sound
 > configuration failure solved over two weeks and find Linuxcare to be nearly
 > useless.  They assume no reply in 48 hours means the problem is solved.
 > Well, I'm learning Linux in my "spare time", let alone that I don't get to 
my
 > mail that consistently.  But the real problem seems to be that when I 
e-mail
 > a reply to their proposed solution, referencing their incident number
 > (usually in the subject line), I am assigned a new number each time.  [I do
 > not reply on-line as they apparently expect]  [Are they billing based on 
the
 > number of incidents solved?]  My "reply" apparently goes to a new support
 > person each time.  With the most recent proposed solution the support 
person
 > asked what product I had, even though I had refered to three other incident
 > numbers [which contained all of the product, equipment & advise 
information]
 > as being the same unsolved issue -- (typically?) the support person was too
 > rushed to review the matter, too rushed to be useful!  Chunking support
 > incidents like this obviously doesn't work.  When one problem takes so long
 > to solve, and is handled so poorly, it makes Mandrake look bad.
 >     Support should also be for everything supplied in the retail package, 
not
 > just the basic system install (Linuxcare support said my problem with Word
 > Perfect and Star Office corrupting X windows was beyond the scope of the
 > support supplied by Mandrake-followed by an ad for paid support).  [Given 
the
 > support I have experienced I certainly don't want to purchase support from
 > them.]  I bought Mandrake because I wanted to accomplish something, I was 
not
 > buying "a new life" trying to make this work.  Since these programs were 
both
 > mentioned as "features" on the box (and both enclosed) it seems reasonable
 > that if I have a problem getting them set up support for that should be
 > included.
 >     -Gary Prichard-
  >>

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