yes...but were they any better than B and C? Seems to be that if M$
wouldn't have worked so hard at making the OS so compatable with every
blasted application designer and his brother Windows wouldn't be so darn
unstable. Just another one of linuxs' strengths. If you want to write
software for Linux you've got to write it so that it will get along with
the OS.

kind-a like too many hands in the .dll cookie jar. Know what I mean?

They should have stuck with what worked. Windows 3.1 was the last good,
and stable OS that M$ made. Everything after that kinda went south.

-- 
Mark
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On 12 Aug 2000, Jaguar wrote:

> Dan LaBine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Dan LaBine
> > 
> > Okay, Okay, Now Kiss and Make Up ! The Pissing contest ends here and now !
> > The problem here is that you're all right to some extent, and that's
> causing
> > all the disagreement.
> >  Point #1 ) Darren,..You're right about this forum being for Linux help &
> > news, but you're wrong about Windows95 being an operating system. But at
> the
> > same time you're also right about it being an operating system. Confused,
> > yet ? Not counting the upgrades of the various versions of Win95, there
> were
> > THREE releases. The first, Win95 A, was a little too close to DOS for
> > comfort, because they (Microsoft) hadn't quite nailed the 32 bit system.
> > Win95 B came a long way towards that goal, and fixed an enormous batch of
> > "Bugs". Win95 C (The last release), was the closest that Windows95 would
> > come. Unfortunately, it wasn't as backwards compatible as most of us would
> 
> I hate to tell ya...there were also versions D and E of Win95
> Jaguar
> 
> 
> > have liked. But Darren, if an O/S was just an O/S, we wouldn't be here
> > having this conversation.
> > 
> > Point #2 ) Tom,...You're right on the money. Good to see someone focused on
> > the best O/S on the planet, so far!
> > 
> > Point #3 ) Adrian,...You're absolutely right about Windows3.0, and 3.11,
> but
> > way out in left field on Windows95. It was an O/S all by itself, but I will
> > admit that it was a "Clunky" one that was full of problems. The first
> > version of Win95 (as previously mentioned, it is referred to as "A"), was
> > intended to pave the way to get rid of DOS. I aggree that it didn't do a
> > great job, but it wasn't running on DOS. Sorry. If you're Win98 system
> > crashes when you try to run PKZIP, then you haven't allowed sufficient
> > memory resources to your DOS prompt ICON. It runs just fine on every system
> > I've ever had it on, including Windows98 SE. The question here is why use
> it
> > at all?? Why not Winzip??
> > 
> > Anyway, I just thought you guys could use a break from pissing each other
> > off. I assume that the reason that your all here, instead of hanging around
> > the Microsoft forums, is because you're all gratified in seeing that there
> > are excellent alternatives to Windows. Linux is the first one that is
> > becoming "User Friendly". I would like to think that it will become the
> next
> > "Technological Marvel" accepted and used by Billions, er um, Millions of
> > satisfied people. But
> > why all the stress guys? What's it gonna prove? Don't think that just
> > because someone writes an article in a magazine, that the article is a
> > profound parable from a prophet or some thing. These guys make mistakes
> too.
> > And remember that these articles are also the writers' opinion, not
> > necessarily facts ! The whole thing with Linux is that you should learn ,
> > and that involves personal experience, and studying, and playing with it.
> > That's half the fun. You can screw it up as much as you want, write new
> > apps, fix old apps, anything, and Linux will keep coming back for more!
> > Anyway, that's my four cents!
> > 
> > By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss something??
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > 
> > 
> > > Yes i agree. But, 1. this is for linux news not personal views on
> Windows.
> > > 2. The claims (which are obviously biased) that Win9x is not on operating
> > > system is just rediculous. Despite any personal feeling you may have
> about
> > > the OS it is still plain and simply, an Operating System. I would prefer
> > to
> > > not spend my time dealing with this subject anymore. This is a mailing
> > list
> > > for people seeking knowledge and one bad "opinion" from a person may have
> > a
> > > severe effect on someone just starting out. Limiting their experience and
> > > personal growth in everything that is out there. Each OS has something to
> > > offer. Let us try to not be so racist. That is my only point.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > > > > It would be better if you actually researched something before you
> > went
> > > > > spouting off. You really have done an outstanding job at making
> > yourself
> > > > > look completely incompetant.
> > > >
> > > >     We don't need personal attacks here either.  Everyone is
> > > > _entitled_ to give their opinions, experience, etc... right or wrong
> > > > Gawd I know sometimes it's just a little brain fade on my part ;)
> > > > Chill out a little.
> > > >
> > > >     In the meantime, I hear cooker's fixin to be in an internal
> > > > code freeze in 'bout 2 weeks.  KDE2 and XF-4 should be release
> > > > grade by then also.  My guess, look for Mandrake 7.2 come late
> > > > September/early October.  XF-4, KDE2, and the fixable problems fixed
> > > > with those some of y'all had with 7.1
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ~~   Tom Brinkman    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > somebody said:
> > > > > > "Windows 3.0 thru 3.11 are not opperating systems. They are just
> > > shells,
> > > > > > running on top of dos. Windows 95 is an opperating system. It
> > contains
> > > a
> > > > > > completly new filesystem(fat32 and fat16 with changes to support
> > long
> > > > > > filenames) and a new io.sys. windows 98 is really windows 95 with a
> > > few
> > > > > > cosmetic changes."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nooooooo.....
> > > > > > don't make me go balistic.
> > > > > > win95 is not an OS.  win95 still ran on DOS, M$ just changed the
> > name
> > > of
> > > > > many of the DOS files so no one would know it.  this was on of the
> > > things
> > > > > some of the computer magazines pointed out when win95 came out (along
> > > with
> > > > > the fact that IE took an inventory of the software on your computer &
> > > sent
> > > > > that information to M$ when you logged on the internet).  of course,
> > M$
> > > > > denied this at first, but eventually admitted it was true.  it may
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > new file system, but it's not an OS - they just did a slightly better
> > > job of
> > > > > hiding DOS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i think there were actually more changes made in win98, under the
> > > hood.
> > > > > one case in point.  PKZIP, the command line version, will run fine in
> > a
> > > DOS
> > > > > box under win95, under win98 however it will just crash.  PKWare had
> > to
> > > come
> > > > > up with a new program to run PKZIP from a command line in win98.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that's my opinion....
> > > > > > and you all know what opinions are like
> > > > > > *haha*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > adrian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adrian Smith
> > > > > > 'de telepone dude
> > > > > > Telecom Dept.
> > > > > > x 7042
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> 
> 
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