and as i said before, friend of my installed a copy of Mandrake off the same DVD I
have now
in the same omputer that I have now...
Mark Weaver wrote:
> Ok...um...not DVD, but CDROM. There is a difference in the way a DVD and
> CDROM read and handle data transfer, albeit in some cases a minute
> difference, still there is a difference. And these are strictly data CD's
> that you're dealing with. Not movies.
>
> yes, I know that they're both digital in nature, but then again you're
> dealing with a Penguin and not a "billy" goat! :)
>
> Sorry...couldn't resist.
>
> What I mean is this. And maybe I'm really out there, but there are things
> about Linux that in time you, like the rest of us, have greatly come to
> admire about Linux. One of the biggest things is that Linux does one
> thing, and it does it VERY well. That is it's an Operating System for the
> sole reason of being an Operating System. It, nor it's creators have no
> illusions of being SO accomodating that it will do just about anything
> with any peice of hardware that remotely resembls what it's looking
> for. That is Windows' biggest strength, but also it's biggest weakness.
>
> This is where Linux and Windows have their biggest seperation and it's the
> point where most potential Linux users coming from a Windows environment
> get stuck. They expect it to act like Windows and accept what ever they
> feed it. It just doesn't work that way, cause it ain't Windows.
>
> So, put the CD into a C...D...ROM and boot from that CDROM and I think
> you'll see more than just the second stage RAMDISK loading. If you don't
> then there's a real good chance that the CD's aren't any good.
>
> --
> Mark
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>
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Paul wrote:
>
> > nope, just tried it, made my DVD drive the bootable one, same problem: 'Error
>creating
> > second stage RAMDISK' when it is creating it, the progress bar reaches the end but
>at
> > the end it spits out the error message... it's not the RAM, I cleaned it as well...
> > (sigh)
> > no linux for me (I could try something else, like Red Hat, but Mandrake has the
> > 'easiest' installation procedure for a linux OS in my opinion, but I'm too lazy
>now...
> > what is that second stage RAMDISK anywho?
> >
> >
> > Mark Weaver wrote:
> >
> > > Um...that CD-RW was a BIG thing to forget to mention. :) Try booting the
> > > CD with a regular CDROM and I think you'll find that Mandrake will install
> > > just fine.
> > >
> > > The thing I was thinking about that RAM though was sometimes Mandrake
> > > won't recognize RAM above 64MB. I was wondering maybe the install program
> > > was having the same difficulty. As I said before, I can't be certain. It
> > > was just something I was thinking about. I'm not at all surprised that
> > > Win2K and 98 didn't have any problem with your hardware. That's how
> > > they're made. That strength is also their biggest weakness. Overall
> > > compatability.
> > >
> > > Anyway, CD-RW's are not the same kind of CD hardware in that they 'read'
> > > somewhat differently. In some instances they won't read regular data CD's
> > > because of the formatting. An example of this is a re-writable CD is a
> > > data CD that can only be read by the CD-RW that wrote the CD. A regular
> > > CDROM will not be able to read that format. I think this quirk goes both
> > > ways, although I could be mistaken.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark
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> > >
> > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Paul wrote:
> > >
> > > > what I forgot to mention is that when I built the computer 3 months ago, a
>friend
> > > > of my, a linux guru unstalled a copy of Mandrake for me and it was working
>fine,
> > > > since then he got rid of it and I installed win2k and win98 on a clean "run..."
> > > > RAM is PC100, brand new, major brand... no problems with athlons...
> > > > (sigh) so frustrating... the only new thing that has changed since that first
> > > > installation of Mandrake is that I added a CD-RW drive which is now the main
>boot
> > > > CD drive...
> > > >
> > > > Abe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > re-seating the ram is worth a shot but this problem shouldn't have anything
>to
> > > > > do with the amount of ram in the system. I've got a machine with 256M that
> > > > > installed 7.1 just fine. My other box has 384M and it also installed just
> > > > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What kind of ram is it? pc-100? pc-133? How new/old is it? I've read that
> > > > > Athlon systems can be picky about older/generic ram. I haven't had any
> > > > > problems with my generic ram though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try reseating the ram, try cleaning the connecting pins, make sure the ram
> > > > > modules are installed in order in the slots on the motherboard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck!
> > > > >
> > > > > Abe
> > > > >
> > > > > >===== Original Message From Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
> > > > > >It sounds like you've got yourself a hardware problem. While I can't be
> > > > > >100% certain what exactly it is. At first glance though I see you have a
> > > > > >HUGE amount of RAM. Just a thought though. Try taking one of those 128MB
> > > > > >chips out and then try the install again and see what happens. I'm not
> > > > > >sure I can explain this craziness, I just have a feeling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Mark
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Paul wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> hey all,
> > > > > >> just burned the CDs... boot with the first one, welcomed by a 'welcome'
> > > > > >> message, hit enter... it's scanning SCSI stuff, CD-ROM, then it's says
>it's
> > > > > >> loading second stage RAMDISK, it reaches the end, and the error message
> > > > > >> pops up: error loading RAMDISK... and I get a blinking cursor at the
> > > > > >> bottom... :(
> > > > > >> they say Windoze is frustrating... sigh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> my specs:
> > > > > >> Athlon 750 (not Thunderbird)
> > > > > >> Abit KA7
> > > > > >> 256MB RAM
> > > > > >> Win2k(24GB), Win98(2GB) Partitions, 4GB unPartitioned
> > > > > >> PioneerDVD 10x, Creative CD-RW 4x2x24 (install/boot from this one...)
> > > > > >> Elsa - GeForce2
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesus saves,
> > > > > Allah forgives,
> > > > > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
