You guys go right ahead. This kind of conversation is on eof my favorite parts of this list. I would say to just add OT to both sides of the subject line and keep on goin'. Dacia --- John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry Marshall wrote: > > > > I've seen reference to Midnight Commander but > haven't tracked it > > down. It sounds like it would serve as an > intermediate between a GUI > > filewindow and doing a whole lot of cd-ing. > > Just type 'mc' at your terminal prompt - it should > be part of the > standard install. It's almost exactly like the Dos > equiv. - a few > shortcuts have been implemented differently - but it > sure makes > navigation easy. > > > > As for your two neurons - do you walk on yours?? > Like me ?? > > I'll have to give that a try. > > It's fun when you leave your props behind <grin> > > > > I've recently returned to ?nix after being > burned on four occassions by > > > confusion still arises - hence my re-install > count is 29 !!!! since > > > April!! > > > > I'm really new back to Unix myself. Have also > done a bunch of > > installs, taking a look at the various > distributions, looking at > > what's installed under various conditions, and > just trying to learn > > how Linux works. > > I've only looked at Mandrake, I brought a copy of > the Macmillan 6.5 > package while in MA and NH in December, liked what I > saw - I've since > moved to 7.0 - and thinking about the move to 7.1. > > > The motivation for a bunch of this is unclear to > me. For instance, > > they've maintained the "." designation for control > files for > > everything except Linux itself. Maybe my memory > is poor but it also > > seems that there is no consistency in the use of > /usr/bin, > > /usr/local/bin and other directories of that ilk. > > I'm not ofay with the history of Linux - I suspect > that Linus > may have been avoiding copyright issues. Sure > catches me still but > less and less > > > Then I get > > something like Star Office, that comes as a binary > and it just dumps > > itself all over the place in the location where > you point it. I'm > > whining but give me a tarball with proper paths > and standard path > > designations any day. Is it my imagination or is > the Red Hat > > distribution different from Mandrake in its path > locations? > > I pulled Star Office from Sun in 7 tarballs way back > (ver 5.1). I > do like it even if it takes an age to load up on > this old beast. > > RedHat/Mandrake paths?? dunno, I assumed that > because L-M was a > sub/super set of RH that they'd be pretty much the > same - Bit > like the difference between say a Holden Commodore > and a Chevvy > Lumina - labels and trim... and both modeled off an > Opel !!! > > > > Environment" by Kerningham and Pike, which I > think I aquired at my first > > > System Admin course way back in the early 80's. > > > > You were into Unix before I was. I first started > working with Unix > > when I put a Sparcstation on my desk to develop > for forest service > > clients. Quite a shock as I'd never done any > multi-user OS stuff and > > the 20+ volumes of documentation that came with > the machine seemed a > > sea of "stuff." I chuckle when I see people here > trying to do Linux > > without advanced reading :-) > > Boy, do I remember those days - > sigh............................... > > > Since you've got a long history with Unix and have > been into Linux > > longer than I, maybe you can advise regarding some > of the graphics > > toolsets and which I should concentrate on. I did > a bunch of work > > with tcl/tk way back when but there was no QT then > and Perl was just > > beginning to be developed so I never had to > interface Perl with any of > > it. > > Should I want to or is writing vanilla C++ with > one of the graphics > > packages the way to go? Should I spend my time > learning QT or just > > bring myself up to speed with current versions of > tcl/tk? So much to > > learn. > > Problem here is that I don't think I'm qualified any > longer to venture > an opinion where programming languages are concerned > - too long away. > > I guess the only opinion/comment I would make in > this area is that > programming in whatever language is a young > persons'domain for the > most part. I think many of us oldies are too set in > our ways to > make the mental shifts. > > I look at some of the code here and go to the fridge > for a beer after > 5 minutes just to stop the headhurt!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - > something about > wasting bandwidth on reminiscing. > > Cheers > > -- > ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
