As any overclocker will tell you, results vary. I am overclocking a
PIII-500e to 750MHz. I have zero stability problems. It was no extra work
to reach this level of overclocking. I am using a stock Intel HSF. All I
had to do was set my front side bus to 150MHz, and BAM, my 225 dollar (at
the time) CPU was performing faster than a 600 dollar CPU.
In the past I've not been able to reach as high an overclock, but I ALWAYS
avoid any stability problems, by dropping the FSB/multiplier until the
system was stable.
dwyatt
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100
> Newbies,
> I want to clarify a couple of points, given all of the discussions
since
> my posting: having done modest overclocking (15%) I found it to be more
> trouble than it was worth overall (that is, the overclocking wasn't worth
the
> time and effort spent solving instability problems a year and a half
later).
> Yes, I liked the free performance. People seem very adament on this
topic,
> and whether they have any experience seems secondary. Personally, I don't
> love or hate any group, overclockers included. I was reporting my direct
> experiences in response to a question. And let me add a further point in
> response to the equipment destruction messages I saw a while back: after I
> reset my CPU back to stock and thus cured my instability problems my
system
> has remained stable and alive for almost 6 months now [I'm using it to
> compose this message].
> Yes, as a computer technician I ran into overclocking, but I have not
> personally seen any distroyed equipment. I have heard of equipment damage
> happening. Likewise I have heard of people overclocking 25% and operating
> for years with no problems. I do not know people from either group. My
own
> experience was completely stable operation with 15% overclocking,
increasing
> instability after a year and a half *, successfully restoring my system,
and
> continuing correctly clocked, again stable, with no failures after another
> nearly six months [no failures in the two years overall]. * a possibility
> that I had never heard of and that hadn't occured to me, hence my original
> posting to this group (equipment death I had heard of, but not just
decline).
> And, yes, I have been in computers long enough to remember S-100
systems,
> and I briefly studied them before buying a Z80 based Osborne, the machine
> they invented the term lugable to describe. It screamed at 4 MHz. [Since
it
> was basically not graphic as we now understand the term, it really was a
> decently performing suitcase sized machine.] I also remember the
> wonderfulness of having to change ROMs and regenerate the CP/M kernel when
> making a hardware change. They had you on that one. Much like Apple and
> their ROMs -- Apple was able to successfully keep any clones out of
existance
> because they had the copyright on the basic graphic routines in the ROMS,
> upon which the operating system was built [i.e. the ROMs were
indespensible
> to doing what an Apple did, and nobody successfully developed a
workaround].
> IBM was trying to do something similar, but Phoenix reverse engineered
(first
> successful (in court) reverse engineering ever?) the motherboard BIOS
chip.
> That act began a chain of events that resulted in PCs as we know them.
Have
> any of you wondered about the "reverse engineering" clause in so much of
> Windon't's software? I'm sure others here on newbie could tell more of
this
> and other things that led to the Free Software Foundation and eventually
to
> Linux as we know it.
> -Gary-
>
> In a message dated 9/15/2000 8:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
> i just love overclocking.
>
> :)
>
> im glad some of u do too. and for those of u that dont.
> oh well
>
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the
best
> > thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it
was
> > awsome, tests showed it. :p
> >
> > markOpoleO
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
> >
> >
> > > Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or
even
> > 900mhz
> > > then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic
irony
> > not a
> > > true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's.
Like
> > you
> > > I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I
> will
> > buy
> > > pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one.
> > >
> > >
> > > Abe
> > >
> > >
> > > >===== Original Message From John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Abe,
> > > >> The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS
> > noticable,
> > > but
> > > >> not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is
> > > overclocked
> > > >> but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go
> > through
> > > >> before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause you
and is
> > it
> > > >> worth it. I include a copy of a posting I sent to newbie in May.
The
> > > >> relevant sentence is : " These things [ referring to 15%
overclocking
> ]
> > > were
> > > >> OK and had worked well for a year and a half." I've done it, and
my
> > answer
> > > >> is that I doubt I will overclock again. As always, remember that
your
> > > >> mileage will vary. -Gary-
> > > >>
> > > >> Subj: [newbie] beware old hardware optimizations
> > > >> Date: 5/27/2000
> > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>
> > > >> I had taken hardware optimizations for granted; this is a
reminder
> > that
> > > >> things can change over time.
> > > >> Having read here a while back that Linux is very demanding of
> > hardware
> > > >> set me thinking. For the last six months I've had problems with
> > Windows
> > > >> Scandisk completing. I suspected my hard drive was heading toward
> > failure
> > > >> [before I was disabled I was a computer technician, and this IS
one of
> > the
> > > >> first signs of hard drive failure a user will see], and before I
> > installed
> > > >> Linux Mandrake 7 I installed a new HDD. The Windows Scandisk
problem
> > > >> remained.
> > > >> In trying to solve Linux WordPerfect vs. StarOffice installs
> > corrupting
> > > X
> > > >> windows, and sound configuration failures it occured to me to
remove
> my
> > 15%
> > > >> overclocking and accelerated DIMM timing from my hardware. These
> > things
> > > were
> > > >> OK and had worked well for a year and a half. Removing the
> > overclocking
> > > >> solved the Scandisk problem. The DIMM timing changed nothing and
was
> > > reset.
> > > >> Too bad this didn't fix my Linux problems.
> > > >> -Gary-
> > > >>
> > > >> In a message dated 9/13/2000 11:42:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > >>
> > > >> <<
> > > >> How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then
it is
> > now?
> > > >> And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to
over
> > clock
> > > it
> > > >> to
> > > >> feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just
> fins
> > and
> > > >> should be left alone.
> > > >> >>
> > > >
> > > >Gary if you've been round the industry long enough you'll remember
the
> > > >good old Z-80.
> > > >
> > > >We used to run Z-80 based S-100 boards in multi-user MPM systems.
The
> > > >boards
> > > >(manufacturer forgotten) supplied 1Mhz Z-80's and clocks on the
boards
> > > >which we replaced. We clocked all of the cards on the buss to 10Mhz
and
> > > >got fantastic performance!!!!!!!! And it worked well on these
beasts.
> > > >
> > > >We had several very happy customers how really loved the 5 times
> > > >thru-put
> > > >increase. Multiple fans the whole 9 yards to keep them cool.
> > > >
> > > >However there was a downside.....................
> > > >
> > > >Really pungant smells throughout the offices, smoke detectors going
off
> > > >for no apparent reason, inexplicable loss of data, and what was
really
> > > >strange was the lovely green laquer on the boards went a really dark
> > > >brown !!!
> > > >
> > > >Now that's overclocking!!!
> > > >
> > > >I should add that none of these systems lasted more than 6 months
!!
> > > >
> > > >I couldn't agree more with your suggestion that overclocking may be
> > > >detrimental to the performace of the system..
> > > >
> > > >I wonder how I get my tongue out of mt cheek now.. any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >
> > > >PS I guess I should advise any contenders for the Americas Cup that
we
> > > >Kiwis still don't overclock <grin>
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Jesus saves,
> > > Allah forgives,
> > > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
> > >
> > > >>
>
