Gary,
    It didn't seem to matter if I tried a text based install or not, and by
doing an expert install and not allowing the PCI to be probed mandrake will
install. As you know it often asks to probe or not, at any of these times it
will lock up if allowed to probe.
I tried another s3 card which failed the same way so whatever it is its not
bad hardware. I also tried a p233 MMX gigabyte tx3 motherboard and it locks
up too with the s3 video. Perhaps the only usual thing about my s3 is that
it is fully populated with memory (4MB) which at the time of buying these
cards was fairly unusual.
I don't bother to overclock. Its an interesting challenge but the gains are
not worth it in my opinion. My main PC (not yet linux) is a dual PIII 733,
udma66 and about 60GB of drives and 256MB of memory. Its pretty slick
anyhow. Running w2k every application starts up in about 1 second or less.
Once a PC has a reasonably fast CPU the main bottleneck is always disk
access, but most people seem to go for faster CPU's all the time. Now if I
could overclock the disks!!
And the PnP was disabled in the bios too.

I'll go back and check the archives again, and look for the VIA discussion.

Regards,    Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1.


> Rod,
>     A couple of thoughts.  First, do I assume correctly that PnP aware O/S
is
> disabled in CMOS?
>     About the time I joined newbie (about 6 months ago) there was a
> discussion of Linux incompatible VIA motherboard chipsets causing
problems.
> I have VIA, but these incompatibilities didn't apply to me, and I only
caught
> the end of the discussion anyway.  Might be worth looking it up in the
newbie
> archives.  Since you say that Red Hat runs OK I know that this is
reaching,
> but....  the idea of motherboard chipsets does seem to link with your
locking
> up on PCI probe.  I assume install completes with no probing.
>     I agree that the S3 is probably not the cause of this locking; S3 is
> reputed to be well supported.  An install with generic server and 16
colors
> should be safe for an install trial.  Have you tried the text based
install?
>     Have you done any overclocking or related optimizations?  I was
> overclocking 15% for over a year and a half with no problems, but began to
> have Windon't lockups on scandisk.  I thought the HDD was getting ready to
> quit, but the problem was traced to the overclocking.  Memory timing
> optimizations remained stable.  -Gary-
>
> In a message dated 10/9/2000 9:24:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Gary,
>  I bought the package (Linux Mandrake 7.1 complete)from the local software
>  shop and the bios virus is disabled. Since posting this email I have
>  elimated a few things. I had the motherboard with only the video card
>  installed, and as its a PCI s3 it should not be the cause of the problem.
>  The motherboard does use the Via Apollo chipset, and the hang will occurr
>  anytime linux probes the PCI bus. I ran through the expert  install, and
>  anytime I answer yes to probling the PCI bus it dies.
>  I tried reseting my motherboard to defaults, still no different. I also
>  tried a 5GB drive which is only udma33, but still the same problem. I
also
>  tried another motherboard, a 233MMX and it hangs as well. The only item I
>  havn't changed is the video card, which I will do, but as Red Hat works
>  fine, I don't expect it to be the video.
>
>  I am fairly new to linux, however I know PC's fairly well incidentally.
>
>  Regards,    Rod
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:43 AM
>  Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1.
>
>
>  > Rod,
>  >     What is the source of the Linux Mandrake CD you are using?  Newbie
>  > recently discussed problems with installs hanging being caused from
both
>  some
>  > bad ISO sources on the net (literally different file lengths), and from
>  > images not being downloaded as "binary."  Do you have CMOS (motherboard
>  bios)
>  > based anti-virus protection enabled?  -Gary-
>  >
>  > In a message dated 10/9/2000 1:56:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  > << My machine boots from the cdrom (or floppy, same result) and after
>  > selecting
>  >  language, then customised install I have to pick from server, normal
etc.
>  >  When I do this I get a message flashed on the screen for about 1
second
>  >  "Please wait, configuring IDE". This message goes and my machine locks
>  up,
>  >  no response to keyboard or mouse, even Crl-Alt Del wont work. Reset is
>  the
>  >  only answer.
>  > <snip>
>  > I have looked in the archives but I seem to be the only one with
install
>  > hangs!!
>  >
>  > Anyone any suggestions??
>  >
>  > Rod
>  >   >>
>  > >>
>
>
>


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