here i am in lovely looking lm8, i.e. it looks the same as lm7.2, eagerly 
looking forward to those little niggling things having been fixed from lm7.2 
and guess what, java still doean't work in konqueror and most annoyingly, 
editing the menus still produces zero effect!

it's such a tiny thing but it's driving me mad, how does one alter a menu 
item and have it stay changed?

before any one mentions /etc/menu please note: i have this directory - it is 
empty

i have manually edited /usr/share/applnk-mdk/ entries, i have manually edited 
~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/ entries, at the same time, i have removed write 
permissions (and made them owned by root if not already) but whan i log out 
and then in again they've been altered back, i had a long conversation here 
with lm7.2 and never had a coherent picture of:
a) what files have menu entires in them
b) what menu relevant routines are run on login
c) how are the menu editing progs kmenuedit amd menu drake supposed to work?

i mean, in menudrake if i choose the kde context i get more entries in the 
lefthand display than if i choose 'all' as a context, now is it me or is that 
just not what you'd expect,
what is the difference between user config and system config? - they look the 
same, 
what are en/disable mandrake customistion suppose to allow/disallow?

if there is a page on the net where this stuff is explained please point me 
to it because i can't find it, what i do have is two progs -menudrake and 
kmenuedit - that look as though they do something but in fact don't, 
who designed the menu system? perhaps they have a contact addy? i need to 
know exactly how this menu system works, otherwise it's obvious that i will 
never learn how to alter it

i feel a little self conscious complaining about such things when i have this 
distro for free, but if those who want linux to replace a certain other os in 
the hearts and minds of users really  want that to happen then people like me 
need to be listened to, 
what are the odds that someone who can't even alter a menu item is going to 
feel that they can 'control' their desktop? more likely is that rather than 
feeling empowered they will in fact feel stupid, like i do

bascule

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