Ummm John?

I don't think Ed meant any harm by his comments. He just doesn't want his 
comments directly used in a publication without his permission (but you can 
paraphrase), which I think is perfectly acceptable (they are his commments, 
after all). I believe his concern is that you may be profiting from this book 
at the expense of the hard work of others. If you spent your free time giving 
free advice only to have the person you're helping publish it and make a 
million dollars, wouldn't you be annoyed? From what I remember about what you 
said right at the beginning, you are writing a freely-available e-book to 
help both newbies to adjust with GNU/Linux and MandrakeSoft to help them make 
their distro better. Is that correct? If so, I have no problems with that, 
and I don't think Ed does either. He doesn't seem to mind if MandrakeSoft 
(and only MandrakeSoft) profits from the book, since they'll plow the money 
back into open source.

As long as your book is freely available to others (as I believe it is), I 
shall contribute all I can. This is in the spirit of sharing and open source 
(or in this case, open documentation). I suggest that you rethink your 
"anti-Ed" mail filter. Ed has made contributed a lot to the Newbie List, and 
the information he can give can be invaluable. Once again, I don't think 
there was any ill-feeling in his message; it was simply a disclaimer to 
protect his rights.

Ed, feel free to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.


On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:45, John Rigby wrote:
> Hello there Ed Tharp and .... hey WHOA!
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:01, you manipulated electrons to produce:
>
> <logically edited>
>  please consider this my
>
> > notice to you that I DO NOT, at this time, give you permission to
> > directly quote myself or any of my postings, an any manner other
> > than "fair use" (I don't have a problem with your computer putting
> > this in a disk cache for instance, but I do not want it to see it
> > in a book that is charged for by anyone other than MandrakeSoft.)
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > Ed Tharp
>
> This is not the sort of place that your post is appropriate for.
> The last thing a good newbie list needs is bar-room lawyers.
> Had you done your own due diligence ( I also do happen to be a bush
> lawyer)  you would know that:
>
> 1. This list is not your typical flambe-type list to warrant such a
> comment. This place *really* is "user friendly."
>
> 2. That I carefully made the points of possible contention clear
> earlier.
>
> 3. Due notice has been taken of your attitude and self-considered
> position as an expert.  Your postings will be ignored.
>
> 4. Your address is on my filter list as of now.
> This message will be deleted -in fact shredded - in thirty seconds
> from now. OK?
>
> JFYI:  Lists like these have only one real purpose and that is for
> the willing few to voluntarily help their many neighbours.
>
> They only work when the helped in turn, contribute.
>
> A thought worth remembering when you next expect help out in the
> cyberbog.
>
>
>
> John Rigby
>
> http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX!
>
> Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for??
> Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (it's only an Autoresponder)  :-)

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