On Tuesday 28 August 2001 04:34, Paul wrote:
> In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s words, written Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:01:00
> -0400 (EDT)
>
> >a few days and it seems to me that vi is a lot easier thus far.  The
> >CTRL-D/DEL
> >thing in emacs is a real hassle.  I know that vi is intended for C
> >programming
> >and emacs for command interpreting/bash programming, so is it best for me
> > to use both?  What are the advantages of each tool under different
> >circumstances?
>
> Pick one and stick with it. Some like vi, some like emacs. And some like
> gedit/nedit/whatever.
> I think it is good to have a choice, figure out what's the best for you,
> and then use it :)
> Paul
>
Hmmm, well the ingredients of a jihad have we when first we seek to compare and 
contrast emacs and vi.

emacs has a more complex command structure and a MUCH better tutorial

as well as bindings for many languages that gives you auto-indent, color-coding, and 
even
function stubs.

As an editor it is not for speed typists so much as for folks who concentrate on 
content.

On the typical power outage crash your loss in emacs will be the last two words typed 
or so.  For vi, it may 
be larger.

Actually you cannt really compare the two.  Emacs can do shell things and help you 
debug programs
without ever getting out of the dark slate gray (that sure looks pine green to me) 
screen while vi cannot.
Whether this is an advantage or disadvantage is a matter of taste, but I can tell you 
this--

You can run X with just an xterm and you can call vi from it and you have to exit to 
the xterm to do
bash things, but you can run emacs as a window manager/desktop environment and you can
read mail and browse th web and debug without ever exiting.

vi was designed as a great improvement over the older "blind" text editors like ed and 
ex which
were really designed for efficiency on a teletype style terminal.  I remember using it 
and thinking 
how much better it was, then I ran into MINCE (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs) and never 
looked
back.

vi has more than one mode which some like and some hate.  

When you come to the decision, it is a matter of taste.  There are also others out 
there, like joe
which can be emacs-like or pico-like or wordstar-like, and jed, which also can 
customize 
bindings.  Look at each of them a little while, learn how to change their styles, then
go get nano of nedit and look at them.  An editor is a personal choice.  Cooledit is 
liked by
some as well, and SIAG offers xedplus to further confuse the issue, then if you want 
language
independence or internationalizaion capabilities the one to use is yudit.  

Forget it, it's too complicated to decide.  Break out your Ada manual and write one 
that can't be 
buffer overflowed, and make it your very own.... :-D

Civileme

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