You were an enlightener! Thank you very much (and sorry for my argentinian english) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch Basically, if you want to apply a patch to any installed program you *need* the source for the program and the patch file, and once you've applied the patch you *have* to compile it yourself and then install it over your current copy of the program. To produce a binary patch file, as you'd likely get with a Windows programs, you'd have to supply a different patch file for each version of GCC which could have been used to compile the source, and then a different patchfile for each different option you could have supplied to the compiler. -O0 would likely produce different object code to -O1, which would differ from -O2 and -O3 and so on. It'd be practically impossible to do with OpenSource software, as different users have different requirements. It's the nice thing about open-source, but it makes binary patching impossible. Thus, the best way to supply patches to code it to directly patch the source and get the user to "roll his own" or compile it himself. He can then choose his own options for optimisation, target CPU's, etc. Now, if you have an application installed which you need/want to patch, you must locate the source for it, unpack it, apply your patch file and compile the thing again. It may well be just as easy to download a newer RPM and upgrade it with one RPM command rather than all that messing about. You do, however, have the choice. For something like the kernel though, it's much easier to take the current 2.4.1 source you currently have and download 2 or 3 patch files to move it up to 2.4.3, than it is to download another 28 meg copy of the kernel source, /most/ of which is identical to the source you already have sitting on your hard-drive in /usr/linux/src! Patching isn't difficult, but it can be a bit daunting the first time your try it - just like compiling your own kernel! Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -----Original Message----- From: Lionel Pitaru [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch Hey! Grate . . . it's sounds grate. I will give it a tray at home and tel you of those bits . . . but sounds grate!!! What about already installed apps that want to be patched. How do you find the source directory or you must specify all the files patched when the patch apps ask for it? Sorry for so many questions. Hey! I'm really lerning! Thanks -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:23 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch You are quite correct - you can't patch the .tar or the .tar.gz file. What you need to do is to get the source files and unpack them into a source directory. You then place your patch file in the same place. You CD into the source directory and apply the patchfile to the source via 'patch'. Like you say, it'll probably be something like 'patch -p0 < patchfile'. All that's going to do is change the actual source files for blackbox. It'll look at the source, look at the relevant bit of the patchfile and work out how it needs to change each sourcefile to make it look "tie-up" with the patchfile. Providing that works, you can then compile your newly patched blackbox sources and install it. Which bit is giving you problems? Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -----Original Message----- From: Lionel Pitaru [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch "So I have a lot of modularised and light weight patchs for my window manager" . . . that is blackbox-0.61.1. I have one of many patches called toolbar_menu.patch. The man patch page said that it usually requiers just to make a patch -p0 (for example) < toolbar_menu.patch in the directory where the "sources" (what this mean, just the blackbox archive, the tar.gz, the entire folder of sources before compiling?), but this dosen't work. It tries to patch and tell me that some file isn't there so i must specify the file, and i don't know what to do. There isn't a way to apply patches to the entiry blackbox.tar.gz? Mmmm, sounds stupid? Well, that's it . . . Thanks -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:37 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch Well, what exactly are you trying to patch and why? It's a bit like say "I have this vehicle, please tell me how to change the cam belt". The answer usually depends on what kind of vehicle it is. From your message it sounds like you are attempting to apply patches to BlackBox 0.6.1.1. Correct? Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -----Original Message----- From: Lionel Pitaru [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please!!!!!!! FW: [newbie] HowTO patch Please!!!! Help me with this! Hello Call me dummy, but, after reading the man page of patch I sill can't make it owrk well. I'm using Mandrake 8.0 and BlackBox 0.61.1 as my window manager, without any other desktop manager. So I have a lot of modularised and light weight patchs for my window manager. What I have to do with the patch's files? Please take in count that I'm a very basic user of Linux. Thanks Lionel << File: message.footer >> ********************************************************************** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ********************************************************************** Norwich Union Life & Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. 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