believe me, I am the last person to defend microsoft,, I really don't like them much at all.. HOWEVER, keeping your servers up to date and patched is imperative, regardless of wether you are using NT/2000 linux/unix or pretty much anything else... The problem is that M$ convinced people somehow that their server os is a plug and play system, they set it up, turn it on and forget it.. That is far from the truth,, we have several linux servers (my doing) and several NT/2000 servers (the other tech guy) and the whole lot of them are as patched as we can make them..... I think our network is pretty good, not the best but certainly not the worst.. and we work hard to make sure that all the patches micro$haft see fit to "endow" us with because of their apparent decision to do their bug testing after realeasing their software, are loaded.. We missed Code Red I and II and a good many others, (according to the logs.) also, the Windows box's sit behind linux boxes using port forwarding to get connected. We will NEVER buy XP, and any system that comes to use with XP preloaded will be wiped and have linux loaded. works great :-) rgds Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 5:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:19 pm, Charles A. Punch escribi�: > > I agree to some extent, but this is a newbie list. *Some* of the > newer newbies are still up to thier neck in Windows, and the Windows > mindset. I'm not knocking anyone. That Windows mindset, is something > that I have been shaking off for a few years. The more of I get off, > the better my computer serves me. I'm the first one to recommend to newbie's (or oldies's) that they keep Windoze around, just don't EVER connect to the Net with it (ASAP). 'Specially if that's with Win2k, any other NT, or the soon to be XP (assuming anybody's dumb a'nough to buy it). This deal with raw sockets is nothin new. Most of the problems (slow) currently being experienced by all Net users (including Penguins), are cause by ignorant Billy OS users flooding the net with Billy's B$ OS's crap. Many Win2k-NT users don't even know they've got servers running, or that M$ email programs, or other 3rd party email apps that run on M$ OS's are killin the NET with all their inherent virus, worm and trojan propensities and capabilities. Windoze is still good for playin games on tho, don't microwave Billy's CD's just yet ;> -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay
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