Actually, I agree with you, popups are annoying....
and all my sites look perfect on IE, I am not using any of their "optional" tags.. I am trying to inform people so that no one else does either.. I was thinking of combining that code with a cookie so that the popup only happens once, or once a month, or once a year... maybe I will make a div in the main page that becomes visable if its IE... then there is no popup and still the infomation comes accross. rgds Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Hokanson Jr. Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 3:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer. On Monday 29 October 2001 07:00 am, you wrote: You can do whatever you want, but I won't visit your site. I find pop-up Windows abhorantly annoying. This is one of the reasons I stopped visiting Geocities sites. Also, I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. As a webdesigner, I can tell you that it only takes a little effort to support a number of browsers with the same HTML code. I'd submit people that don't bother to do this are lazy. My old homepage was tested with many different types of browsers including IE, Netscape, Opera, Mossiac, Lynx, and some sort of Russian browser which name escapes me at the moment. And yes, I downloaded them all. It's already been brought up ad nausium that MSIE does support HTML 4.x, and the use of their proprietary tags is optional. The MSN webmaster was clearly full of crap. Just accept this for what it is. In a sense, you're no better than they are by stretching the truth. As for the security risks regarding MSIE, I could easily write a Javascript program that does some pretty mallicious stuff. You hear more about VBScript viri because of the volume of computers that support it. > Further to our conversation on this list about msn.com.. > > I have created what I think should be Linux and open sources > retailation for Microsofts attempt to force the use of their "non > standards compliant" browser. > > This is what I have so far. > > > Here is the code that goes in your main site.. > ########################################################## > <html><head><title>Non Compliant browser!!!</title> > <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript"> > <!-- > var browserName = navigator.appName > if (browserName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer") > { > PoPuP = window.open("http://mydomain.com/non-compliance.html";, > "PoPuP", > "scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,statusbar=no,width=450,height=200,resiza >ble=yes") ; > } > </SCRIPT> > </head> > <body> > </body> > ########################################################### > Nothing terribly fancy about that, pretty standard code. > > and here is the page it opens: > ########################################################### > > <html> > <head><title>WARNING! Non Standards Compliant Browser Detected. > Possible Security Risk.</title></head> > > <body> > <h4>You are using: Microsoft Internet Explorer to view this > site.</h4> Because Microsoft do not always support open standards, > and they appear to change their level of support constantly, we > cannot guarantee that you will receive our site in the manner and > with the functionality with which it was intended.<br> > > Also, many security flaws have been found in "Internet Explorer" > that could put your computer and your personal infomation at risk. > > We suggest you download Mozilla (Free) at <a href > ="http://mozilla.org"; target="new"> > http://mozilla.org</a> and show your support free software around > the world. Mozilla was created and is maintained and advanced by > open source programmers around the world. It is a fast, secure and > most importantly, standards compliant browser. > <br> > This is not necessary you may have full functionality, we just > can't guarantee it, and neither can anyone else other then > Microsoft and its partners. > </body> > </html> > ############################################################ > > This opens a small featureless browser window of 450x200 pixels > that contains the above html,, I would like to hear anyones > comments on this. > > > > rgds > > Frank ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- -- John Hokanson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallently. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein
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