Gidday Lyvim and Jim (and others)
I have to say thank you to you guys for answers to questions I was going to ask soon, 
and
thanks to Mike for asking.
rgrds
max

> On Saturday 02 February 2002 18:28, you wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I know how bad it can be when you're starting from ground zero.  I had the
> same problems when I had to learn IBM Dos version 2 from scratch by myself.
>
> The syntax can be arcane and hard to understand at times.  Plus, the man
> pages are not oriented to new users.  The best source of information for new
> users are HOWTO resources, which list concrete real world examples, put forth
> in no nonsense easy to understand format.  I appreciate these resources
> greatly because I did not have them 15 years ago when I got a generous crash
> course by an asshole administrator.
>
> There are many HOWTO's, but after checking I found precious little in the way
> of tar information.  This was a little disturbing, as tar is a heavily used
> resource in the UNIX world.  On discovering this, I empathized with your
> situation even more.
>
> To access this information locally on your system, assuming you've got a
> Mandrake system and I don't have any reason to assume otherwise, put the
> following in your browser:
>
> file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html
>
> If by chance the docs are not installed, go to the following net resource:
>
> www.linuxdoc.org
>
> Since this is a new user's list, there should'nt be any subscribers that have
> any misplaced preconceptions concerning a list member's foreknowledge about
> anything regarding Mandrake Linux.
>
> Having said that, your original question concerned backup programs. That in
> itself tells us alot about what you are asking.  First, whenever you are
> talking about a script or utility that does backups, it's generally desirable
> to be able to grab everything in a given location, plus save permissions and
> ownership information; not to mention the hidden .dotdirs.  That's generally
> what backup programs do.  If you tend to back your stuff up to CDRW like I
> do, you might want to make a tar.gz archive of your directory.  In my case, I
> like to save the home user's directory to a tar.gz archive, then put it on
> CDRW temporarily until I've upgraded the system to the next latest distro.
> The following command will save everything unilaterally and keep all
> ownership and permissions information verbatim:
>
> cd /home
> tar -zxpvf /tmp/storage/home_dir.tar.gz *
>
> If you then want to view what you've done after you complete this, you go to
> the /tmp/storage directory and type:
>
> tar -ztpvf home_dir.tar.gz
>
> This doesn't do anything but pull a list of what's in the archive.  The "z"
> option on the tar command line tells the program to process the archive with
> gzip, which gives it a respectable compression; saving you alot of space.
>
> Hope this gets you started.  Email again if you've got further questions.
>
> LX
>
> > shane wrote:
> > > tar springs to mind.........
> >
> > If I knew how to use tar to backup / or /home
> >
> > I would not have asked the question.
> >
> > would you mind to tell me how to do this ?
> >
> >
> > Just smugly saying tar ( Duh ) springs to mind, doesn't really answer
> > the question.
> >
> > For anyone reading this , most of us when we ask a question , we mean
> >
> > Ok, HOW do you do that?
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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