On Wednesday 06 March 2002 01:34 pm, Gerald Waugh wrote:
> This thing is running quite well and seems real snappy running X
> Now I want to know about fine-tunning it.
> What are people using for overclocking?

    I've got a 1.4 Tbird runnin at 1.55 on a Soyo k7vta pro, almost a 
year now.  Multiplier == 11.5   X   FSB == 135mz , Vcore == 1.85 , 
IOv == 3.44.  None of this would be possible without high volume case 
ventilation. Use a standard (ie, 'el cheapo', $8) heatsink/fan, but 
scrape off the thermal pad and use thermal grease instead. Nothin 
fancy, $2 Radio Shack compound will do nicely. Don't fall for the Artic 
Silver with a $50 hs/fan hype, but you must move lot'sa air in/out of 
your case.  This is good practice even if you don't oc.

> and what CPU Freq Multiplier?

     I'm assuming you realize that your XP is locked and that the L1 
bridges must be closed to facilitate changing the multiplier. If you 
don't want to risk closing the L1's, then at least keep the FSB 
reasonable (see below).

    There's two schools of oc'ing (IMO, and this applies mostly to AMD 
133mhz (266) FSB, unlocked cpu's)

o   kiddies ~  think that oc'g the FSB way over spec makes everything 
oc'd. It doesn't. Problem is that this also raises the PCI (and thereby 
AGP) bus too high.  This causes large problems (sooner or _later_) for 
PCI and AGP devices, specially harddrives and scsi devices. It does 
soup up the ram tho**.

o    old fuddy duddy's (like me ;) ~  keep their FSB close, but raise 
the multiplier as high as it'll go**, then raise the FSB a touch. 
Believing the PCI bus should be kept as close to 33.3mhz as possible, 
this dictates that the FSB must be kept < 140mhz, which keeps the PCI 
bus < 36mhz.  The PCI bus should never exceed the range 30 to 36mhz. 
Divide the FSB by 4 to obtain your PCI bus speed (by 3 for 100mhz FSB 
cpu's).

**  Stabilitiy  ~  it ain't properly oc'd if it's not stable, as in 
bulletproof. For instance my 1.4 will boot and run both Linux and 
Winblows at 12x 137 (1.64 ghz), but it's not completely bulletproof 
running the tests below (all have both Linux and Windoze versions)

o   First, have a 'memtest86' floppy, and boot oc'd from it. Once 
you've found the highest multiplier (FSB at the default 133mhz) you can 
pass all the tests with, then

o   Second, d/l Prime95 for Linux (mprime). Run 'mprime -m' and choose 
number 17, the torture test.  You must be able to complete all of the 
test without errors. (This is where my Tbird at 1.64 fails, most likely 
ram errors since I'm still usin ancient pc100 SDram, 35% oc'd)

o   Third, and probly most important. Install lm_sensors and a GUI 
(Gkrellm) to constantly display cpu temp. D/l and run Cpuburn's 
'burnK7'. If you can leave burnK7 running for several hours, no errors, 
and keep cpu temp <= 55�C, you're doin great. 60�C is tolerable, but 
over time (dust bunnies and cpu creep), it won't be good enough.  Keep 
in mind that you're seein temps from a thermistor (probe), and that 
actual core temp is probly 10, more likely 20�C higher. Since AMD specs 
Athlons to fry at ~90�C, anything over 60�C from lm_sensors is 
intolerable. Shut down the system, and study up on cpu/case cooling.

   IMNSHO, the above tests should be run on non-oc'd systems also. Most 
store bought, ready made systems would fail miserably with cpuburn.

    Fine tuning:  Raise the FSB (reasonably) and repeat all the tests 
above.  When you find the highest FSB that passes muster, back off 1 or 
2 mhz. EG, my system is bulletproof at 11.5x137, but I run it at 
11.5x135. Then try all of the above again with your ram bios settings 
set to optimum. Most likey that'll be Cas2, 4 bank interleaving.

> And do I want to fool with the cpu volts?

    Yes, check the spec for your cpu, but for mine it's a range that 
AMD recommends, 1.7 to 1.85 Vcore. Higher is better, as it is for IOv 
also. IO default is 3.3v, but up to 3.7 will provide better ram 
stability and performance.  IOv on my board's not adjustable, but most 
good boards provide 3.4 to 3.5 by default.  Kiddies might up the Vcore 
into the near 2.0v range, but old fuddy duddy's like me stay within 
reason (1.85 max).

    You should see a linear improvement in CPUmark99 scores.  IE, since 
my 1.4 is ~11% oc'd, I see a 11% increase in CPUmarks. Cpumark is a 
Winblows test, but it runs equally well under Linux with wine.  Video 
card performance should also scale linearly with cpu oc.
-- 
    Tom Brinkman                       Corpus Christi, Texas

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