Hey Terry...

Yep, just did that. Stripped it down to the bare motherboard, reseated the 
CPU, RAM, vid card...reconnected the power switch, reset switch, etc. Then 
I tried starting it up, with basically nothing but the vid card attatched, 
and it still exhibited the same boot problem, so I guess I'm in the market 
for a new motherboard. I saw a couple Asus boards on the AMD recommended 
list that might do the job.

Anyone want to make some recommendations for boards that worked well for 
them? It needs to be a board recommended for an XP1800, that will accept 
DDR RAM, and no integrated sound or video...

On 18 Mar 2002, Terry Smith wrote:

> Roger,
> 
> Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had some 'shutdown' problems with
> my new box also. Turned out to be a bad mobo (which has been replaced - 
> no problems since).
> 
> One way of debugging these things is to 'simplify'. Disconnect all your
> peripherals - removable drives, keyboard, floppy, mouse, etc. -
> everything except the monitor and the boot drive. Does it boot and run?
> (Obviously you won't be able to do anything). Yes, start adding
> components and rebooting.
> 
> No. Swap drives. Try again.
> 
> No. Swap power supplies. Try again.
> 
> Well I think you get the drift. Try to isolate the component that's
> causing the problem.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod, USA
> 
> On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 08:28, Roger Sherman wrote:
> > Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either 
> > this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, 
> > and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. 
> > 
> > I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), 
> > and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and 
> > I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, 
> > troubleshooting wise.
> > 
> > First of all, the system configuration:
> > 
> > Abit KG-7 motherboard
> > AMD 1800XP
> > 512 Meg DDR RAM
> > ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card
> > SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive
> > 60 gig Maxtor HD
> > generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily 
> > gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now)
> > 
> > Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, 
> > I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's 
> > starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the 
> > beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I 
> > then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which 
> > point it will usually start up again.
> > 
> > Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't 
> > have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it 
> > wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and 
> > it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will 
> > start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video 
> > output and away we go.
> > 
> > Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The 
> > first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of 
> > the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by 
> > Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and 
> > hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold 
> > the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using 
> > the reset button doesn't seem to work. 
> > 
> > This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when 
> > Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line 
> > login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 
> > - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've 
> > started X, and am checking my email.
> > 
> > And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets 
> > past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze 
> > problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but 
> > if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the 
> > monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to 
> > wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped 
> > giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again.
> > 
> > My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that 
> > makes it impossible, obviously.
> > 
> > Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the 
> > symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the 
> > HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally 
> > had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster 
> > and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it 
> > didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy 
> > drive. 
> > 
> > Before I replaced the HD and CD-RW, they effectively stopped working with 
> > this PC, and I'm worried what's currently in there will stop working as 
> > well, as every time I make a change, things seem to get a little better, 
> > but never really work right, and then things degenerate. I don't have 
> > anything else I can swap into this box, so if it continues to degenerate 
> > with the current config, I'll have to stop using it until I can afford to 
> > take it to a PC doctor.
> > 
> > Again, sorry for the OT post, but any help anyone can offer would be 
> > hugely appreciated.
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > peace,
> > 
> > Rog
> > 
> > registered linux user #190719
> > ICQ #56469198
> > http://www.toddstheory.com
> > 
> > 
> > ----
> > 
> 
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> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 

peace,

Rog

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