This was an excellent read.
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 05:28, civileme wrote: > Strange, II trained 15 secretaries on Mandrake 6.1 and it is still in > use at a government office (upgraded to 8.1 now, but using StarOffice > and WordPerfect in an all-linux network )inside a state whose government > would halt without Microsoft software. > > That statement you made smacks of FUD and sounds very unprofessional. > Here you are on a help list but not looking for help, only complaining > without specifics. > Troll--to move the boat slowly along a chum line in search of gamefish. > Some folks get off on trolling for flame wars after which they can > participate gleefully or sit on the sidelines observing the sparks and > incendiaries and mud being slung by the participants. The > (unfortunately true) internet legendary flame war included a pregnant > participant who posted that she could not properly put her opponents in > their places as she had to go deliver her baby... > But, never fear, I don't place you in the category of troll. You I > would place in two possible categories. One is the fellow who is so > sure his view of the world is the _ONLY_ right one that he posts > nonsense which makes sense in his own experience but ignores factors he > has never observed. Probably such a person has never read W. Edwards > Deming, or having read him, understood the dynamics that could be > achieved by proper application. The other is that sort of sinister > character who sees the problems newbies encounter with linux as an > opportunity to spread discouragement and dissent for reasons of his own. > I am sad to report that I believe this category likely. > >like most people most of my things now will tend to be USB.... like most of > >the world except the M8.2 distro........?? > Well, USB support is much better but will not be perfect. Most USB > devices are honoring the standard with lips, not with hardware and > making up for it by writing windows drivers. But we've got printers and > cameras and non-proprietary scanners and some storage devices including > some of the memory devices working pretty well. Crashtesters have been > happy on that score. naturally there are bugs, but most of them are > elsewhere and often range into the arcane, like when someone chooses a > 16-bit character encoding for Samba Shares (which windows doesn't like > very much either) but we have targeted the worst and will have the > update fixes tested by the time the disks hit the shelves. > Anyway, you would never see this level of discussion of problems > tolerated on a Microsoft list. In fact it is a LICENSE AGREEMENT > VIOLATION on some of their software to use it to criticize Microsoft. > And if you don't believe me, just read the End-User License Agreement > for FrontPage 2000 or 2002. When the UCITA passes in Washington State, > some of Microsoft's critics are likely to find themselves criminals > because they use FrontPage to make a web page that criticizes Microsoft. > > We can take criticism, and we can take you as well, because most list > members will see the FUD you spread for what it is, just a very clever > twist to make problem-solving seem like something dirty. > > When one is tryoing to take a complex thing and make it simple, and easy > to use, decisions have to be made about excluding cases from the > handling of the tools available. Almost all the requests on this list > result from lack of knowledge about how to exceed the design of the > tools or from failure of the tool to fully protect the user from > mistakes. So this list is very important to honing tool design and > provides a source of feedback to improve the product. > > If you really stumbled so totally with Mandrake, then try to install > Windows and see how much luck you have--not with the manufacturers > install or restore disk but with a fresh system disk. The fact is, > right now, we're easier. We're easier than XP and we support more hardware. > > OK enough said. I won't be seeing any more of your posts unless you > email me directly. > > Civileme Good work, LX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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