Thx, useful reply & helpful as always.

*shrugs*  I was just curious.

Femme

> Why?  Well the install kernel has to have very special shape to run
> framebuffer or VGA for the graphics, detect and install drivers for the
> devices (SCSI, some network and so on, and all of this MUST be there
> when you boot off a floppy to do a CDROM install, or a hard disk
> install, or a network install via NFS or http: or ftp:.  So it has to
> fit on a floppy.
> 
> Now the kernel has increased in size squeezing drivers off the floppy.
>  For example, you have to load drivers now for the vintage 1994-95 CD
> drives that attached to sound cards, because we have dropped those
> drivers from the install image.  The point is that ALL the drivers must
> be present from the install image that get used in the install or else
> supplemental drivers must be loaded by hitting F1 at the splash screen
> and typing "expert".
> 
> So, the keyboard and mouse worked fine under the influence of your BIOS,
> but as soon as the install kernel took over, it did not have a driver
> for them as USB devices (which means you are probably using a USB
> interface we thought was superceded by the new USB2 drivers). Now, once
> you are up with the full system, with all the modules for the kernel (or
> drivers) available on the hard disk, detection and use is a simple matter.
> 
> There are ALREADY some forks in the road.  For example, John Rigby would
> have benefitted greatly from his reported problems under 8.0 by making a
> boot floppy from one of the cdrom.img-BADZxx files in
> /images/alternatives and by installing kernel22 and staying strictly
> away from Reiser partitions.  8.1 users whose machines reacted badly or
> needed older drivers for unupdated Adaptec controllers could boot from
> CD2 and use alternate install kernels.  Another fork for USB alone is a
> lot of work and will not be implemented unless this affects a lot of
> machines.  If the proliferation of kernel versions gets out of hand, we
> won't be able to maintain them all.
> 
> That is how, and the "why" is 1.44Mb.  We could support 1.72 Mb, but the
> number of drives that can format those is not 100% and data loss is
> higher, so we have chosen not to.  (In fact some older floppy drives
> will physically break trying to format a 1.72Mb floppy, and a lot of
> them will fail to format it under windows but do fine under linux....
>  And a lot of our users are first-time linux users who start out only
> with the other OS.
> 
> Civileme
> 
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