john rigby wrote: >Hi Civileme, >Thanks for the info. >However, you didn't answer some of the points such as re getting FROM text >to GUI via the command line. Is there a way? >Couple of others I've prefaced with ******** if you wouldn't mind..... > >>>2. As I paid for the presentation of 1000's of programs with the retail >>>Powerpak, is there a chance that I could use say a 2 disk minimalist set >>> >of > >>>8.1 ( or 2) to get a start and then install the programs I want from the >>> >8.0 > >>>Set? >>> >******** Would this be safe? >
It would be safe as long as you don't use --force in the install options. OTOH, it may or may not work. ViaVoice will _not_ work. > > >>>3. What is the vote nowadays - my figures show 50/50 for 8.1 and 8.2 re >>> >user > >>>install/working satisfaction. >>> >******* Re above question - and should I go for 8.1? > No, 8.1 has several bugs in the supermount and in a couple of the install scripts and is generally more of a pain to install than 8.2. 8.2 is much faster, due to an improved virtual memory algorithm, and many of the complaints for 8.2 can be attributed to bad burns for downloadable CDs or trying to install from CD1 only, which will not work. One integrated Chipset (with a ProSavage inside) is having video problems during disk access (real bug) and Samba will not unmount if you encode the mount filenames in a 16-bit or higher character encoding scheme (works fine if filenames are in iso 8859-1). > > >>>4. If Mandrake can't for some reason detect a graphics card, should it >>> >not > >>>say so? Or will it simply default to a Terminal/text install? >>> >******** As this has happened before, I would like to know this info. > First Mandrake tries to estabvlish a Framebuffer driver. The Framebuffer device is a virtual device providing up to 1024x768 graphics with 16-bit(65535-color) color which works off of most modern video cards. If that is unsuccessful, the first fall-back is a VGA 640x480 16-color graphical install, and only then is the retreat to text employed. This is why it is weird, because the 630/540/730 SiS chipsets ALL support framebuffer. May I ask if this Mainboard has been otherwise tested? You may have a serious problem with it in a hardware sense. Frankly I would suspect the CDs first because you have reported problems that looked like incomplete installs on other machines with those CDs. > > >>I have a Jetway 630TCF with the SiS 630 chipset. Install comes up >>Graphic without any effort on my part since the video supports >>Framebuffer. With the 530 and 8.0 there are some problems on some >>implementations usually solved by setting options in >> >******** You said problems with "530". Did you mean 530 or slip from 630? > >There is a series for Pentium II and III called the 620 which has a super socket 7 >counterpart tagged the 530 in the same way that the much more modern 630(for PII PIII >Celeron and Via C3) has a super socket 7 equivalent called the 540. I definitely >meant 530, which is also an integrated chipset but with earlier and less >sophisticated capabilities though still 3D acceleration capable. > > > >>It makes no sense for the install to come up text without any graphics. >>But if the install does, then your CDs are seriously damaged (at least >>one run of the pressed CDs had trouble with a RAMDisk). It might try to >>come up text if you have less than 64M RAM since the 630 shares 8M of >>main memory with video memory which makes a 32M setup really offer only >>24M to the system. In that case you would be fortunate to install at >>all. >> >********* Well, I had 512 on the last system and 384 on this one, so RAm >wasn't a problem. >There may be a disk problem - although there was no failure evident - >everything else went according to schedule except it won't run as GUI. > It could also be a hardware problem. Does this show graphics on ANY system? 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 show OK on my 630TCF, and on a laptop based on the 630 handled by one of the crashtesters. The sound portion is something requiring special tweaks in 8.2 though it runs out of the box on 8.1 and as I recall, does not run on 8.0. > >Thanks, > >John > Civileme
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