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From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] What would be the standard document format?


> On Sunday 21 April 2002 07:19 pm, Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday 21 April 2002 06:28 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 09:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
> > > > Michael wrote:
> > > > > I thought double spacing was outdated anyway in modern business
> > > > > communications. Still personal preferences are what life thrives
on.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, I'm on the old side, but I never saw any reference to double
> > > > spacing being outdated except in Internet / HTML / computer related
> > > > discussions -- it makes me suspect that somebody decided putting two
> > > > spaces after the punctuation ending a sentence would be too
difficult
> > > > for a computer to deal with (or didn't even know it was the
established
> > > > practise) and simply ignored it.  (KISS?)
> > >
> > > I agree with your suspicions Randy; with the qualification that
perhaps
> > > it had a little more to do with people than computers.
> > >
> > > > That suspicion sort of destroys my faith in computers / programmers.
> > > > (Well, it might have been destroyed before then ;-)
> > > >
> > > > (sorry, not intended to sound like a rant)
> > > >
> > > > (Two spaces are still used in all the business correspondence I send
> > > > and receive.)
> > >
> > > I've also been using two space sentence endings in all my emails,
> > > correspondence, business letters, reports, etc etc for years because
it
> > > is the correct method, and I've never had a problem with "rivers of
> > > white".  I note that most other recent books that I have here on the
> > > shelves also have the correct sentence end spacing also; including
> > > Kernigan and Ritchie's "The C Programming Language."
> > >
> > > This two space controversy sounds much like what I've heard this
before;
> > > newer is good, old is bad.  Only the new concepts should exist, and
are
> > > not compatible with the stuff that evolved from the past; GUI's are
more
> > > advanced than CLI's; music of this generation is better than the last
> > > generation's crap, blah blah blah ad infinitim.  For me, some sentence
> > > separation is easier to read as opposed to run-on sentences.
> > >
> > > > Randy Kramer
> > >
> > > LX
> >
> > Something else to consider.  When a letter crosses my desk, my first
urge
> > before reading is to throw it away.  Traditional appearance could well
make
> > the difference.  Us old timers are comfortable with 2 spaces.
> >
> > Then there are days when everything goes in the round file.  After all,
if
> > it's really important, they'll try again.
> >
> > Lee
>
> Lee:
> Guess I'm not the only cranky old bastard on the list :^).
>
> Reading through these posts, I had a flashback to a print shop class in
> junior high where we learned the basics of setting type by hand. I have a
> vague recollection that en spaces where used between words and em spaces
> between sentences. Then, at the end of the line, thinner spaces were
inserted
> at various points in the line in order to justify the type. This was for
not
> just esthetics, but for a very practical reason, as well: If the type was
not
> properly justified it would fall out of the stick or, worse yet, fall
apart
> in the press.
>
> For those who have no idea what an em and en are, an em is a space whose
> width is equivalent to the height of the type, and an en is half the width
of
> an em.
>
> -- cmg

I had the same class in Junior High (middle school was a grassy area called
the "quad"). We made "business cards", it was messy fun.

JRD/ms


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