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From: "Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:01 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question


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> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir
> |Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:17 PM
> |To: NewbieMandrake-List
> |Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question
> |
> |
> |I say to P4 advocates, ignore
> |the smoke and mirrors and look at the man behind the curtain;
> |click your heels together three times and go home to Athlon.
> |
>
> I've been to OZ thank you. The AMD's "wicked witch" drove me back to
> P4's.
>
> What am I talking about? Surely not the wondrous AMD processor itself?
>
> No. It's a fine beasty in and of itself, primarily due to it's cache.
>
> Sadly the support chip manufacturers (Via, Ali, etc.) have a serious
> uphill learning curve to overcome.
>
> So if you want to say use 3D Gaming glasses, TV cards, many peripherals,
> the AMD's are problematic thanks to these people.
>
> Huh? You grunt. What does this fool pretend to know?
>
> The clock timer problem with motherboards using Via, Ali, etc. causes
> both DMA and video problems. (Linux complains about it if you enable
> debugging in the logs).
>
> TV cards will not work as they must perform DMA "push" transfers, which
> are upset by the clock timer bug. This same sporadic timing causes
> "flashing" when using 3D glasses and NVIDIA's wonderful drivers.
> Both problems go away when the same hardware is transferred to P4/Intel
> boards. Low latency audio cards are also affected, as are WinModems
> (heh, heh, heh... Winmodems are EVIL!)
>
> Similarly Creative and other manufacturers have also had to issue
> workarounds for identical problems.
>
> Professional level audio software producers (such as Native Instruments,
> etc.) also caution users to stay away from the AMD processors for the
> same reasons.
>
> Too bad, because this is really NOT AMD's fault.
>
> (Though I'd like to see AMD mimic Intel's thermal protection circuitry,
> which is sadly lacking on their CPU's.).
>
> I clicked my heels together and awoke back in Intel Land, sigh.
> Though I'm still rooting for AMD, things are still not ready for prime
> time.
>
> My $.02, and worth every penny!
>
> -JMS
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