I don't know how I could have missed your first reply. I've been looking for a 
reply for sometime -mea culpa.

On Sunday 17 April 2005 06:21 pm, Tom wrote:
> njcross wrote:
> > Now the bittorrent thing has subsided I thought I'd ask again.
> >
> > At present I'm using kernel  '2.6.8.1-12.2mdk' but because I'm
> > experiencing high latency,and especially xruns from Jack, was thinking of
> > installing 'kernel-multimedia-2.6.10-3.mm.13mdk'.
>
> <snip>
>
> > Should I install 'kernel-multimedia-2.6.10-3.mm.13mdk' or 
> > kernel-2.6.11.6mdk? Will the new kernel include all the latency patches
> > up to now or are kernel updates selective? If so is 
> > 'kernel-multimedia-2.6.10-3.mm.13mdk' the latest 'mm' available and will
> > it's latency be better than 'kernel-2.6.11.6mdk'.  Is there no multimedia
> > '2.6.11.6mdk' yet?
> >
> > Any help would be most appreciated.
>
>      I believe I spoke to this request before.  If so you'll need to
> refer in large part to my previous advice to install
>    kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-6mdk   and compile a custom low latency
> version.
>
>     Sometime back (years?) it was a contest and an argument on LKML,
> low latency vs. preempt.  Both involved many of the same
> ingredients, preempt won out.  It's not the default because it can
> cause myriads of clueless user feedback on marginal hardware.  That
> said, I always recompile for K7 (ie, cpu specific), preempt, and low
> overhead 1+gig ram addressing (K7, preempt, 4gb).  Addressing ram
> over 896mb introduces overhead (latency), but limiting to 4 gig is
> only first layer, an a fairly negligible added burden.
>
>      If you install kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-6mdk, preempt is not
> turned on. The line in .config to enable it is;
>
>    CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
>
>     When you find that line it will be commented out and end 'is not
> set'.    Assuming you've already edited Makefile too. You should
> edit .config, 'cp' it out of the way, before starting with 'make
> mrproper'. Then move it back to .config before runnin 'make
> oldconfig'  (make, make modules_install, make install).
>
>      If all the above seems like Greek, then I believe (but not
> sure) that the -mm (multimedia) kernels are also preempt enabled.
> Latest (as of today) is     kernel-multimedia-2.6.10-3.mm.28mdk.i586
> One'a the problems there is they are only opt'd for i586 (last time
> I looked), and would be a joke on a ready made like a Dell, Compaq,
> Gateway, etc.
>
>     Which begs the question:  If you seem articulate enough to
> discern latency obstacles, why don't you just install the latest mm
> kernel and see if if satisfies your requirements?  You can see the
> kernel features by running 'modinfo <module>' on any loaded module,
> an look for a line somethin like this
>
> vermagic:       2.6.11-6mdkK7E4G preempt K7 gcc-3.4
>
>
>       'Course any an all the above doesn't mean sh!+ to a tree if
> you don't know your hardware, an haven't already pushed the
> cpu/cache/ram to near reasonable limits.  Particularly the ram
> timings, latency, an banking.  An then thoro'ly tested with somethin
> like mprime's torture test, or cpuburn.
>
>    You can't compile a donkey into a thoroughbred

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