On Friday 05 August 2005 05:55 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
| On Friday 05 August 2005 11:47, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote:
| > On Friday 05 August 2005 04:28 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
| > | On Friday 05 August 2005 04:50, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote:
| > | > On Thursday 04 August 2005 03:41 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
| > | > | On Thursday 04 August 2005 21:19, Travis Crook wrote:
| > | > | > Hi all,
| > | > | > Is there a mail client that uses the maildir format
| > | > | > locally? I am using Evolution currently but I don't
| > | > | > like the mbox format. It tends to lose mail
| > | > | > occassionally.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks!
| > | > |
| > | > | KMail.
| > | > |
| > | > | BTW, what's the difference ?
| > | > |
| > | > | Kaj Haulrich.
| > | >
| > | > With Maildir format, the email folders are directories on
| > | > the HD. Each email message is a separate file.
| > |
| > | <rest snipped>
| > |
| > | Hmm... I use KMail with maildir format. Now, when trying to
| > | backup my mail i figured just to copy my entire .Mail
| > | directory which has subdirectories like inbox, outbox, trash,
| > | etc.. Each with new subdirectories like cur, new and tmp.
| > |
| > | But, when opening those directories I can see a lot of mail
| > | with names like .Mail/trash/cur/1119873857.1829.26YkF:2,S and
| > | clicking them just opens en empty KMail editor with no
| > | content whatsoever.... ?
| > |
| > | Some ghost in my machine, eating mail.. ?
| > |
| > | Kaj Haulrich.
| >
| > No. Kmail will not open email that way (I do not know why). You
| > can back up your email simply by copying the .Mail directory and
| > it's sub-directories to a back up media.
| >
| > The reason I prefer maildir format is that I can access each
| > separate email message with a text editor.
| >
| > I use fetchmail to retrieve my email from the WEB in a cron job
| > each 15 minutes. Fetchmail passes the mail to procmail for
| > filtering. Procmail transfers all known messages to destinations
| > I specified in my procmail recipes, then drops any unknown
| > messages in my pending/new directory.
| >
| > Xlassie watches my inbox, and pending directories for new mail,
| > and notifies me when new mail arrives.
| >
| > I check out any pending messages with a text editor for
| > security's sake (I also do not want to be subjected to some of
| > what gets dropped in my pending directory). To simplify this, I
| > navigated to my pending/new mail directory in file manager. I
| > clicked 'settings / save view profile "filemanagement", then in
| > the save dialog, changed the profile name to pending and clicked
| > 'SAVE". Next, I ALT-CLICKED an email message and selected 'Open
| > With ...'. I navigated to 'More Applications / Editors' and
| > selected the text editor I want to open email with. I also
| > clicked to remember this file association and clicked 'OK'.
| > Finally, I created a desktop icon with a command line 'konqueror
| > -profile pending'. Now I can click my pending mail icon, then
| > alt-click any message file there to see it's contents in my
| > chosen text editor. If the message is nothing I want, I can
| > simply delete it in filemanager. Since I do not get a large
| > volume of unknown email, this works well for me. YMMV
|
| Cool, really. But why all this concern over security ? - If you
| configure your mail agent (KMail or whatever) to drop all
| html-messages and have a decent spam filter, what's the risk ?
|
| Kaj Haulrich.
I set this up before Kmail provided the features it does today. I am used to
working this way, and security is only a part of it (laziness enters in
too :) ). An additional advantage is automation without consuming resources
needlessly. Cron executes fetchmail each quarter hour, which gets the whole
thing rolling. Between times the only things running and using resources are
xlassie and cron. I know the resources involved are relatively insignificant
today, but this was not the case back in the 486 (AMD 5X CPU) days when I set
this system up.
Now that everything is set up, I have my fetchmairc, procmailrc, cron command
file, and my email directories backed up. When I do an upgrade or new
install, I simply restore these files / directories, and it all just works
again.
OK, I'm busted. I'm lazy. This system works. It is easy to restore when I do
upgrades or a clean install for a new MDV version. As much as any other
reason, I think the way it works is cool :).
It is one more tiny little piece that makes my Linux box my own. The degree to
which I can customize and modify my system is unsurpassed by any other OS
available. Windows users customize their system with tweaking tools, and call
themselves 'power users'. They do not know or understand what real power is.
With my Linux box, I get to choose the file system my data is stored under,
the desktop environment I work in, and even whether I work in a CLI or GUI
environment, while both can be as easily available as a keyboard shortcut, or
opening a window in my GUI. Further i get to decide what software is
installed. I even get to build my own custom kernel if I want to. I have
absolute control over ALL aspects of my Linux installation, and I would not
have it any other way.
I'm sorry if this went a little over the top, but I do feel strongly about the
advantages of Linux :).
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Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ICQ 41060744
Registered Linux User 247790
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